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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Cost Of Running Heaters

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10 Mar 2009 12:15 #1 by tm2204 (Thomas Maguire)
Sorry if this has been covered before but I was wondering:

(a) Is running a 100w heater the same costwise as running a 100w bulb? I would have thought it to be the same.

(b) Are you better off having a 100w heater running almost constantly that keeps your water at the required temperature or to have a 200w heater that switches on/off more? I would have thought that it would cost the same.


Cheers
:)

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10 Mar 2009 13:41 #2 by Xeon (ioan micu)
After my knowledge the wattage of an appliance is watt/hour. So 100w heater working non stop means each hour it uses 100w. Of what i've seen in my tanks if I use a higher wattage heater (never stayed for an full hour to watch the on/off switch) it's better to use a heater that comes on and off than one working non stop. This depends a lot on the diference of temperature in the room.
I'm not worried too much about how much electricity my 100w heater uses when i have a 9000w electric shower, a 6000w electric heater(that's only one out of two in the livingroom), probably the washing machine heater is another 2000-4000w, an electric boiler at 3000w x2, the iron has another 1400w :))

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10 Mar 2009 13:46 #3 by Xeon (ioan micu)
I had a quick add up, and comes up that the maximum a heater can use a day if it's on nonstop is somewhere under 30c for 24 hours.

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10 Mar 2009 14:05 #4 by cardinal (Lar Savage)
Hiya tm

You would be better off with the larger heater I reckon ,because it would mean less work (switching ) on the thermostat,IME it's normally the thermostat which fails rather then the heater element itself.so if a thermostat is switching itself on and of (I.e. the contacts are working) over a given time period rather then being held in the same position for a long time as they would with a smaller heater there is less chance of the contacts fusing together and knackering the thermostat. Thats how I would look at it anyway....:) :)

Lar

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10 Mar 2009 14:17 #5 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Cardinal,

Im getting a new heater for my 180l the juwel 200w is aload of crap.... Was looking at a jager 150w and it says it will do a 200 l. tank was also lookin at the jager 200w will do 300 l.

Not sure which one but ur sayin that if i had a heater with more wattage it wouldnt be doin as much work as the smaller heater?

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10 Mar 2009 14:24 #6 by cardinal (Lar Savage)
yep

Thats the way I'd look at it ....to be honest I'd go with the Jaeger 200w,there probably isn't much of a price difference between the 150w and the 200w,sometimes I think a little bit of overkill can be a good thing...:)

Lar

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10 Mar 2009 14:28 #7 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Yeah there is no difference in price at all

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