Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
Safety when performing maintenance?
- KenS (Ken Simpson)
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If I don't turn up at the next LFKS meeting, you'll know what happened :shock:
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always on the lookout for interesting corys.pm me if you know off any!
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But I do disconnect my internal filters, especially when its time to wash them out.
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You never do it or you do do it?I never do it. Only when doing a w/c.
Is doing a w/c not what KenS was refering to?
(not critisizing just curious!!!)
See I tend to do the whole lot together.
Substrate vac/water change/ filter clean.
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Each time I have my hands in tanks trimming plants back & replanting cuttings I leave everything on.
My my, aren't we all turning out to be very bad with the old H & S.
"Everything's going perfectly in my aquarium. What do I do???"
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I think the risk is pretty minimal, but in theory, if the heater or filter shorts out, you could get current flowing through the water. Sticking your hand in then could be nasty. However, I've never heard of hit happening.
If anyone dies as a result of a short, could they please ensure that their next of kin post a message on the forum? Then the rest of us will then start taking precautions.
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Smoke me a Kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast.
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That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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Amps Effects
1 Severe Burns
.3-.4 Breathing Stops
.1-.2 Death
0.05 – 0.07 Severe Shock
.03 -.05 Muscle Paralysis
.01 - .02 Pain
0.010 Mild Sensation
.007 - .0096 Slendertone Belt
.001 Threshold sensation
Table 1: Electrical current versus risk to human subject [2]
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get one of those safety trip switches like the ones they use in ponds. The name doesn't come to mind but most of you will know what I am waffling on about. And if somebody knows the correct name feel free to post it
They're called Residual Circuit Breakers. RCD's.
I don't have one, I have a surge protector instead to stop any possible lighening strikes from blowing my equipment & costing me a fortune.
"Everything's going perfectly in my aquarium. What do I do???"
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But thats not important right now.
Anyhoo, your main 'fuseboard' should have one fitted to protect all the circuits, if you don't have one, get one.
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On both occasions I was fortunate not to have had any part of myself in the water and all that happened was that the plug fuse blew, cutting off the electricity supply immediately.
It might be worth mentioning that you do make certain you have the recommended fuse values in your different fish-accessories plugs. This is very important and cannot be overstressed.
:idea: :idea: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.
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It's a long way to Tipperary.
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All jokes aside, a friend of mine ad a powerhead that was leaking a small current and you could feel a tingling sensation when you put your hand into the tank.
By the way electric chairs use about 2.5 amp and you could easily gat that in a tank
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I have an RCD on the sockets which will trip if anything goes wrong - hopefully saving me and the fish. However I take them off when going on vacation as you have to physically reset them if there is a power outage.
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You never do it or you do do it?I never do it. Only when doing a w/c.
Is doing a w/c not what KenS was refering to?
(not critisizing just curious!!!)
See I tend to do the whole lot together.
Substrate vac/water change/ filter clean.
If you read the question Ken never asked about water changes..
Do you disconnect your filter and heater before putting your hand in the tank?
Some of us don`t just get our hands wet when doing a w/c.
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But wouldnt the fish die as well and probably sooner if there was even the slightest current in the water?
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Treat every day like your last, some day it will be??
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i would agree that the fish might die first but a lot of fish can sense electric fields and then there are those that produce their own so i would not rely on that
Mickey Wallace & Cath Woods
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i would agree that the fish might die first but a lot of fish can sense electric fields and then there are those that produce their own so i would not rely on that
hands up who has an electric eel in their tank

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But wouldnt the fish die as well and probably sooner if there was even the slightest current in the water?
i would have thought the same thing. i only turn filter off to clean it.
being hso in work i should know better :oops:
May your fish be with you:
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Amps Effects
1 Severe Burns
.3-.4 Breathing Stops
.1-.2 Death
0.05 – 0.07 Severe Shock
.03 -.05 Muscle Paralysis
.01 - .02 Pain
0.010 Mild Sensation
.007 - .0096 Slendertone Belt
.001 Threshold sensation
Table 1: Electrical current versus risk to human subject [2]
How come .1-.2 will kill you, but it takes .3-.4 for you to stop breathing?
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Ken.
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I think he ment .1 Sevear burns .3-4 Breathing stops and 1-2 death.
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Might give it a go.





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