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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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29 Apr 2010 16:13 - 29 Apr 2010 16:30 #1 by Ma (mm mm)
Hi all,


Was just looking at the news Peter Harvey found not guilty after beating a student in the head with a dumbell, ouch.

Granted his reaction was over the top though if I were a teacher and I had to chase a student while he was swearing at me, I would have called in the parents and given them the treatment the kid got instead. I am not condoning violence against anyone, I just feel parents should be made more responsible for what their kids do.

Why do we expect teachers to raise our kids? Ireland and the UK has never before had so many young degenerates, abusive destructive little rags, totally in almost all cases the failure of parents through a complete lack of interest in their children and respect for other people.

Bring corporal punishment back?
Make the parent stay in class with an repeatedly unruly student for a day or two, that would encourage a lot of parents into doing something:)

Had to edit in "I am behind My Harvey, he was a nice guy that snapped after years of crap from little jerks"
Mark

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29 Apr 2010 16:41 #2 by CJackson (Frank Farrell)
There is definitely an attitude among certain parents that school, and the professionals who work there, are state paid babysitters (or filthy public sector leaches who have destroyed this country), but god forbid they should actually try and discipline their child (not with dumbells mind you) and there'll be hell to pay. I'm not a teacher by the way, just to be clear. I heard about this guy when the story first came out and remember reading that most of the student body were supportive of him and had high praise for him as a teacher.

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29 Apr 2010 16:54 #3 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
I can't believe the support that teacher is getting, this is the guy that had just returned to work after four or five months because he thought he might hurt someone. Well he did, therefore he should be found guilty.

No kid, I son't care what they did deserves to be treated like that, hit in the head with a 3kg blunt instrument. FFS. What would you say if it was your kid?



Daragh

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29 Apr 2010 17:01 #4 by CJackson (Frank Farrell)
Daragh_Owens wrote:

No kid, I don't care what they did deserves to be treated like that, hit in the head with a 3kg blunt instrument.


I 100% agree with that, and I would even apply it to the kids who stab people in the heads with screwdrivers like we've seen here recently.

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29 Apr 2010 17:07 #5 by mossy (gavin blanchfield)
spare the rod
spoil the child spings into mind

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29 Apr 2010 17:38 #6 by Ma (mm mm)
Daragh_Owens wrote:

I can't believe the support that teacher is getting, this is the guy that had just returned to work after four or five months because he thought he might hurt someone. Well he did, therefore he should be found guilty.

No kid, I son't care what they did deserves to be treated like that, hit in the head with a 3kg blunt instrument. FFS. What would you say if it was your kid?



Daragh


I get you mate but he DID warn the school officials of this. Also, what was done to make sure this stressed teacher was not exposed to exactly what went on. Yeah he went over the top but this is uncharacteristic of this individual, not mentally well, he was well enough to do "his" job yes, but he was not well enough to do "Our job" for us, ie getting a grip on a little sob, I never ever imagines swearing at a teacher, it is time to take measures agaist this once and for all. Some kids feel protected by law and know they can run amok, if there is no threat of reprisals at home then they really play up. Throwing chairs swearing messin with phones and general idiotic behaviour.

It's the trailer park Jack azz generation.

Mark

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29 Apr 2010 17:47 - 29 Apr 2010 17:49 #7 by Ma (mm mm)
mossy wrote:

spare the rod
spoil the child spings into mind


MOssy do you actually realise the word spoil means to ruin. Literally.

It's fine with very young children but to think they have no boundaries will lead to well, not good thing and often leaves a kid with a reduced ability to deal with disappointment and reduced sense of responsibility of wrong doing I think

Mark

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29 Apr 2010 18:01 #8 by mossy (gavin blanchfield)
what would you have done if it was your child mark

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29 Apr 2010 18:33 #9 by Ma (mm mm)
Of course we all know how this would affect us as parents, I repeat I do not agree with the beating of the kid, I feel the parents have some, nay a lot of responsibility for what happened, which is my point I thought. My kid would be quite apprehensive of what may come at home if he swore at a teacher.

Mark

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29 Apr 2010 18:38 #10 by Ma (mm mm)
In the UK a teacher cant tell the parents if a 14yo student is pregnant, they have to deal with it? I mean, these people are trusted to educate future generations, so what they do is quite important yet is does not get the support required, schools here now have to fend for themselves, a fn tragedy is what it is.

So messed up, common sense has surely gone the way of the dinosaurs
Mark

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29 Apr 2010 21:53 #11 by Acara (Dave Walters)
He should've been done.That is,if you read and beleive todays media.He has been found not guilty in a court of law,there could well be something that we havnt been told.I've sat through a couple of cases,IN the court,and then read what the papers say,2 different things.
I'm not defending him,just saying we weren't there,at any stage of the process.
When I went to school,there was not a hope of us putting a foot out of place,we were feared of the teachers(I should point out the school had nothing to do with any church),they were(or seemed to us then)older men,and matriarchal type women.These days they're all 23 and 24yr old girls,not long out of school themselves.Damn,I wish they were like that when I was at school!

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29 Apr 2010 21:58 #12 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Although I would never condone the behaviour of those kids in the run up to this incident, had that been my kid, Mr Harvey would still be sh*tting dumbell. Whoever put him back on the payroll knowing about his mental health issues has a lot to answer for.

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29 Apr 2010 22:18 #13 by mossy (gavin blanchfield)
wish i was back in school again with all the deadly lookin teachers:woohoo:

big change from gettin flattened by the nuns and christin brothers:angry:

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29 Apr 2010 22:21 #14 by CJackson (Frank Farrell)
Yeah, I wish I was back in school with my harley and my guns - ready to off any one who crossed me and bad mouthed my cichlid bitches - sorry, been watching too much Sons of Anarchy.

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29 Apr 2010 23:16 - 29 Apr 2010 23:18 #15 by Ma (mm mm)
A lesson that should be learned is not to be a dhead, or someone WIll give it to you eventually, I mean simple as if te kid just did what he was told, he'd be fine, thats the bottom line, the kid can do nothing about the teachers mental health, but he could have not been a little doorknob, for his own sake, again not saying he deserved it, ffs how could he deserve it, how was that ever a question?

I have always talked with my kid about his teachers. With the way things have gone these days with trust you have to.

Something to be said for respect though. It would have prevented it.

Mark

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29 Apr 2010 23:23 #16 by mossy (gavin blanchfield)
that fxxks up the "little johnny puttin his hand up at the back of the class" jokes

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