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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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21 Sep 2013 22:28 #1 by chris.c5 (Chris Crowley)
Hey all, got a 60ltr planted hex tank with 2 angelfish, 4 guppies, 3 neons, 1 oto, 2 snails and 2 shrimps i think, was 9!!! Any of these good or bad tank mates? I have homemade c02 and reguarly use ferts.

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21 Sep 2013 22:37 - 21 Sep 2013 23:01 #2 by Homer (Kevin)
Replied by Homer (Kevin) on topic Advice appreciated
Welcome to the Forum.

Your Angels, when they get bigger, will eat or seriously damage your tetras, shrimps and anything else that will fit in their mouths.

H.

The Glass is always greener on the other side.


It's NOT "Chee lick", NOT "Chee Chee Licks"!!! Cichlids is pronounced as "Sick Lids"!!!!!
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21 Sep 2013 22:41 #3 by Finn86 (Paul Finnegan)
Hi Chris,

You may need to reconsider the angels, if they are young and small the tank may not look so crowded now but that could change very fast, I have also seen guppies nip at angels fins but that is not always the case.

Welcome to the forum :)

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21 Sep 2013 22:53 #4 by chris.c5 (Chris Crowley)
I'll keep an eye on those angels so make sure they behave themselves, seen nothing fron the guppies for fin nipping yet but would the angels be the culprits for my shrimps going missing or would the c02 be an issue ( angels are still fairly juvenile)

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21 Sep 2013 23:03 #5 by Finn86 (Paul Finnegan)
From what I have read angels do and will eat shrimp if they get the chance. I guess it depends on the size of shrimp and if they see them as a food source? Do you think your angels would be able to eat the shrimp?

Be sure to put up some pictures in the photo section, everyone loves photos here :)

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21 Sep 2013 23:10 #6 by chris.c5 (Chris Crowley)
The angels are't the biggest and the shrimp i had were large enough, i wouldn't think they could eat them but who knows what happens in the dark of night, i'll put some pics up tomorrow when the lights back on, tis bedtime for them now

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21 Sep 2013 23:28 #7 by Homer (Kevin)
Replied by Homer (Kevin) on topic Advice appreciated
Anything Cichlid-like will torment and tease Shrimp, if they cannot eat them Whole, tasty pieces will suffice and breeding shrimp would be very unlikely.

H.

The Glass is always greener on the other side.


It's NOT "Chee lick", NOT "Chee Chee Licks"!!! Cichlids is pronounced as "Sick Lids"!!!!!

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22 Sep 2013 07:45 #8 by chris.c5 (Chris Crowley)
Thats kills my shrimp carpet dreams then haha

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22 Sep 2013 09:02 #9 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Advice appreciated
The fact is that all Shrimps would be fairly well protected against most fish which could not get them into their mouth(s), but Shrimps - having what those in the know call (quite rightly) exo-skeletons - ie all their 'bones' are on the outside - have to shed their outer skins (skeletons) periodically in order to accommodate their growth.
It's at this point that the new 'skin' is soft (until it 'hardens') and Shrimps - well all crustaceans in fact - are then vulnerable to attack from fish which would normally be unable to attack them, and indeed even from others of their own type.
So, during the 'moult' all crustaceans - but in our case mainly Shrimps - need places of refuge where they can hide until the new outer skin hardens to become the new 'armour'.

John

ps welcome to the Forum.

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It's a long way to Tipperary.

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22 Sep 2013 09:26 #10 by hammie (Neil Hammerton)
I'd loose the angle fish to be honest!
They will certainly outgrow a 60l tank anyway, and at that point you will be rethinking your stock again anyway!
So why not get yourself something a bit more socially pleasant now and keep the rest of your stock intact?

I've been down this route and changed the entire stock of a tank to suit 2 inhabitants (costing myself a fortune) only to have them outgrow the tank anyway......
I'll not do it this way in future lol

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22 Sep 2013 09:57 - 22 Sep 2013 10:22 #11 by chris.c5 (Chris Crowley)
Anything you'd recommend instead or angels, i got them to fill the middle area of the tank as i found this was quiet a barren area for fish most of the time as my tank is quite tall, pics attached

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22 Sep 2013 10:11 #12 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Keep the angels....and ghet another tank.

That is THE best advice a fish keeper can give you.

ian

Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.

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22 Sep 2013 10:18 #13 by chris.c5 (Chris Crowley)
That'll have to be another days project

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22 Sep 2013 11:49 #14 by JustinK (Justin Kelly)

Keep the angels....and ghet another tank.

That is THE best advice a fish keeper can give you.

ian


+1

That tank is too small for Angels, the surface area is even smaller than a regular 60 litre.
So stocking is even limited.

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22 Sep 2013 12:20 #15 by chris.c5 (Chris Crowley)
I'm aware of that so really trying to keep numbers down but with quality viewing fish, asked for recommendations in seahorse before i got the angels and thats what they suggested saying they should suit my tank due to it being tall

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22 Sep 2013 13:18 #16 by JustinK (Justin Kelly)
I can see the idea behind it, but theres not much swimming space for a big fish.
The neons need a bigger group too, they should be in that middle area.
The guppys should be all over the tank.
Maybe 3 corydoras for the bottom?
Unless you get another type tetra to go in that middle area ?

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22 Sep 2013 13:37 #17 by chris.c5 (Chris Crowley)
I had 5 neons but two got caught behind the mesh at the back the first night so prob should invest in a couple more. I find the guppies aren't moving from the top third, might have a look at some corydoras

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22 Sep 2013 17:14 #18 by Melander (Andreas Melander)
Welcome along,

I agree with the others about the angels.

Otos like company and are quite interesting to watch when they interact with each other, how about a few friends for the one you have?

Andreas

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22 Sep 2013 17:20 #19 by chris.c5 (Chris Crowley)
I might have to try and swap my poor angels away so. I'll add and otto or two to my neon shopping list

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22 Sep 2013 20:24 #20 by Karolis (Karolis Austynas)
hello, nice tank

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22 Sep 2013 20:29 #21 by chris.c5 (Chris Crowley)
Cheers, its still a work in progress but i don't think your ever finished working on these

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22 Sep 2013 20:37 #22 by Finn86 (Paul Finnegan)
Have you looked at the apistogrammas? Very nice dwarf cichlid, and they dont grow very big, it is a tall tank though so maybe another member experienced with these might be able to say if it would work or not,

Google apistogramma cacatuoides, absolutely love these fish. B)

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22 Sep 2013 20:41 #23 by Melander (Andreas Melander)
Forgot to say that the tank looks good.

Your angels are still small so I don't think there is a major rush in rehoming them, more something to be aware of.

Andreas

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22 Sep 2013 20:49 #24 by chris.c5 (Chris Crowley)
The apistogrammas is nice alrite, don't think they would fit with me tho.

While the angels are small i'd rather move them now than make the decision when its too late, i might get away with a few small tanks but the missus would kill me if i turned up with anything that would suit a full grown angel

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22 Sep 2013 21:07 #25 by JustinK (Justin Kelly)
Im sure I was told Apistos need a bigger tank
Or could have been a bigger tank for more than one ?

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01 Jan 2014 13:16 #26 by chris.c5 (Chris Crowley)
Just got a second tank up and going, standard 54 litre with jbl substrate and a few old stones thrown on top

Have some guppies, diamond eye tetras, ramshorn snails and a couple of pearl blue shrimp
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01 Jan 2014 14:39 #27 by davey_c (dave clarke)
Keep an eye on those snails, I like them myself but not to everyone's taste because they are prolific breeders and none of your fish will eat them.

Below tank is for sale

my plywood tank build.

www.irishfishkeepers.com/index.php/forum...k-build-diary#137768

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