Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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- giunceris (gintaras barbsys)
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tks yours GIUNCERIS
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best of luck
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- peter (peter campbell)
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marines a whole new world when compared to tropical
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- peter (peter campbell)
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you can still use the equipment like the filter and the heater if you switch to marine
I REALLY wouldnt advise anyone TO go straight to marine its a big job looking after a tank and they cost a lot of money and id hate to see you with empty pockets and a load of dead fish in 2 months time.
I know youll have a huge itch to get started but just slow down and id say to stay away from marine for a while and resist the huge temptation.
hope this helps.but sorry if it shatters your idea of a marine tank.
peter:(
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it is my first fish tank in my life!i need a lot of learning!
You have to walk before you can run
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i would ultimately like to keep marines but i know im just not able for it yet not for a few years anyways
think carefully before you go ahead with this and do a ton of research
best of luck
If you're going to be crazy, you have to get paid for it or else you're going to be locked up.
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- Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
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Ask lots of questions and dont be afraid to take advise, that way you will give yourself the best chnace of making the tank work and more importantly making the fish stay alive for a long time!
Best of luck with it, and make sure you do a pic by pic guide to the set up, it would be a great thread to follow.
Gavin
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- peter (peter campbell)
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So make your mistakes and gain experience with cheap freshwater fish instead of destroying 100s worth of LR and LS and killing fish,because IT WILL HAPPEN if you jump straight to marines.
do your wallet a favour and take some advice
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- cardinal (Lar Savage)
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You should really read some books before you put a drop of water into your tank... Nobody has said your useless but without reading up on things beforehand this could end up being a costly exercise,not to mention possibly causing stress and pain to living creatures, Do you not think it would be wise to keep freshwater fish for a while,the learning curve is not so severe or expensive !!

Good luck...Lar
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- Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
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Also Guineris, what type of marine fish are you hoping to keep? How close is you lfs ?
Gavin
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if one time fish die, i'll get another fish!
bad attitude, fish are not diposable,
seriously, take your time, read up, be patient
i killed a goldfish when i started and it still
bugs the hell out of me!
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if your still going ahead with your marine project a good book choice would be the conscientious marine aquarist by robert m. fenner, its quite exspensive but a lot cheaper than a tank full of dead fish.if i were you my next investment would be a quarintine tank 50 ltrs.[trust me i know his from exsperience]
anyway what ever you decide to do take your time and good luck with it
john
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Perhaps six months of tropicals would pursuade you otherwise!
You must feel like everyone is telling you not to do your marine project. I know when you want to do something,its hard to go against the plan then. People here arent having a go at you,its important to understand that, however they are giving their advise which is based on years of experience and they have seen it all before.
For example when you are learning how to drive you dont learn on a ferrai, you start on something small. Fish keeping is similar, tropicals are great fish and most people begin with coldwater fish at some stage progress to tropicals and eventually move to marines, the upkeep in marine takes all those years experience garned from the coldwater and tropical fish keeping to get to the level required.
Its something you are intend on doing by the sounds of it, best of luck with it but I urge you to research everything before a drop of water goes into the tank!!

Gavin
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after setting up your tank and cycling it [4-6weeks]you will get an algae bloom its time for a clean up crew
and then another week or so before fish and only the most hardiest types id steer clear of tangs for a while.
you seem hellbent on this so all we can do is try to help ,be prepared for some bad days as well as good
john
ps agood skimmer is a must
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allot more knowledge is needed and it most certainly beneficial to have kept tropical fish before hand
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Even thought i knew enough to start one up right away but i was wrong in the first month i lost 5 fish, now with tropics dats not too expensive but with marines thats a couple of hundred euro and i wanted a huge tank to start but ive learned to just keep it handy start small and work ur way up and im only know after upgrading to a 180l after 4 months, not to big not what i was thinkin when i started but its the next step.
I will say all the lads on the sit are great for any type of help to do with all ares of fish keeping anything you need they can help with i will say good luck and i hope you can prove us wrong and have no problems with the tank or fish.
Alan
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