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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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17 Jun 2011 12:42 #1 by JohnH (John)
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I shall have to buy some surgical gloves I think...

www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/content.p..._TB&utm_content=html

John

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17 Jun 2011 19:36 #2 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
...and some people still mouth siphon.

There's a few other, and potentially more hazardous, bacteria within a fish tank as well.

Even though I still siphon by mouth (not all tanks though), I do sometimes wear surgical gloves (it's just a habit).

ian

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17 Jun 2011 19:42 #3 by JohnH (John)
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...and some people still mouth siphon.

There's a few other, and potentially more hazardous, bacteria within a fish tank as well.

Even though I still siphon by mouth (not all tanks though), I do sometimes wear surgical gloves (it's just a habit).

ian


...for syphoning?...
;o)
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17 Jun 2011 19:56 #4 by igmillichip (ian millichip)

...and some people still mouth siphon.

There's a few other, and potentially more hazardous, bacteria within a fish tank as well.

Even though I still siphon by mouth (not all tanks though), I do sometimes wear surgical gloves (it's just a habit).

ian


...for syphoning?...
;o)
John


That as well. :blush:

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17 Jun 2011 22:58 #5 by JustinK (Justin Kelly)
I find that shaking a syphoning tube in the tank to get it started is distressing for the fish. Its enough for them just having the tube moved around the tank and myself so close.

The water will syphon if you stop just as it comes over the edge of the tank as gravity will pull it down, therefore no water in the mouth.

Being a plumber I tend to have cuts or broken skin on my hands regularly, so I try not to put my hand in then.

Does anyone have gloves that would go nearly up to your armpits for deep tanks ?

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17 Jun 2011 23:11 #6 by JustinK (Justin Kelly)
Could she not dose her hand in some dedicated med ?

If it entered tru a cut then would it be in her blood or just spreading tru the tissue ?

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17 Jun 2011 23:32 #7 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
the symptoms may take a long time to show....and treatment can be over a long period of time as well.

These bugs are pretty tough cookies......so, like leprosy or TB (caused by similar bacteria), you don't really want to be infected as they can be tough to get rid off (as far as I know...but my hands-on knowledge on these is now pretty old).

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18 Jun 2011 01:12 - 18 Jun 2011 01:14 #8 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Re: Of concern.

I find that shaking a syphoning tube in the tank to get it started is distressing for the fish. Its enough for them just having the tube moved around the tank and myself so close.

The water will syphon if you stop just as it comes over the edge of the tank as gravity will pull it down, therefore no water in the mouth.

Being a plumber I tend to have cuts or broken skin on my hands regularly, so I try not to put my hand in then.

Does anyone have gloves that would go nearly up to your armpits for deep tanks ?


Justin,
I cannot remember where I saw them but someone was selling elbow-length (but not shoulder-length) rubber gloves for fishkeeper-use.
If I think of it tomorrow I'll go a'searching.

John

Just thinking on from this, they must be available since vets use them to help with calving.

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18 Jun 2011 11:28 #9 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
I get my normal surgical gloves from Tesco.....they have a choice of sizes. And always useful for autopsies.

Here is a useful link on fish zoonoses..... I tried find a good one that was not too scientific....

iacuc.al.umces.edu/resources/fish.pdf

ian

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18 Jun 2011 12:11 #10 by JustinK (Justin Kelly)
That file is 13.91MB, I hope its a good read :)

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18 Jun 2011 13:18 #11 by stretnik (stretnik)
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God help the poor Sod that is allergic to Latex !!

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18 Jun 2011 14:22 #12 by igmillichip (ian millichip)

God help the poor Sod that is allergic to Latex !!

Kev.


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20 Jun 2011 20:36 - 20 Jun 2011 20:48 #13 by Adalantai (Eugene Kent)
interesting fact and one i admit i never really thought of to much but think that had better change.

My other half works in the hygiene industry and says he can source these gloves that go elbow and full arm, they are nitrile so less chance of allergy.I will try out a pair first and see if they good and can pass on details of supplier to anyone who wants them

On the point of siphoning i fill the siphon with water before i put it into tank which means the suction has already in place and once i uncover tube the flow starts. The water in siphon flows out first so dont need to worry about unconditioned tap water entering tank.
Eugene

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What if to get to Heaven you had to brave Hell?
What if everything you ever wanted cost you everything you ever achieved?
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20 Jun 2011 21:33 #14 by funkychic (trish coughlan)
never thought u could catch tb fr fish .. thanks for posting this artcle

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