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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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15 May 2010 19:28 - 16 May 2010 12:56 #1 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
Several people have been asking for a list of show classes, here they are:

Barbs
Characins
Cichlids
Siamese Fighters, Gouramies
Killifish
Catfish
Corydoras etc
Rasbora
Danio
Loaches
Any Other Species Egglayer
Guppies
Cultivated Livebearers
Swordtails
Platies
Mollies
Any Other Species Livebearer

Single-tailed Goldfish
Twin-tailed Goldfish
Any Other Species Coldwater

Pairs of Fishes
Breeders Teams Livebearers (6 fish - if sexable, there should be 3 of each)
Breeders Teams Egglayers (6 fish - if sexable, there should be 3 of each)

Junior Classes ***
Inverts *** (see thread here: www.irishfishkeepers.com/cms/component/o...d,39/id,70774/#70786)

In some cases, classes may be sub-divided into more specific divisions, e.g. Cichlids will be Angelfish / African / Discus / All Others

In some cases classes can be merged if there are only 2 or 3 fish entered in a class.


*** Special Prize for these classes
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16 May 2010 01:17 #2 by JohnH (John)
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In some cases classes can be merged if there are only 2 or 3 fish entered in a class.


Yes,
I think that makes very good sense...one way to stop someone's Angel Fish being placed First, Second and Third especially when he only entered three fish (oops, I omitted to mention they were the only three Angels submitted)...

In some cases, classes may be sub-divided into more specific divisions, e.g. Cichlids will be Angelfish / African / Discus / All Others


For entirely the opposite reasoning this too is very practical.

Not being to 'picky' but can we just have an indication of the Junior Classes - will they be similar (with divisions/mergers) or just one class for all entries from juniors?

I expect further points to be clarified will crop up during the coming week.

John
ps, I think the 'extra' class for Inverts is a really good idea - so many Aquarists are now keeping them as well as their Fish.
(note to myself to check for Frogs in the Garden Pond...).

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16 May 2010 11:46 #3 by JohnH (John)
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Sorry to be a pain - is the pairs of Fish Category for Pairs of Fish which have bred, or just a pair of fish?
Also, Derek already told me that a Breeder's Group consists of six fish - is it important to specify the actual date of birth or hatching date (in the case of Egglayers)?

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16 May 2010 12:59 #4 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
A pair of fish, just has to be a pair. They don't have to have been bred.

The age of the breeders team must be less than 14 months. The date of birth or hatching should be submitted on the entry form and will be displayed on the tank.

I edited the class list above to show that breeders group is 6 fish and where they are sexable there should be three of each.

Daragh

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17 May 2010 10:53 #5 by JohnH (John)
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As an aside to this thread I will later be announcing a little "extra" photo Competition for pictures taken at the Show.

So, everyone:
Charge up your camera batteries (or buy new ones)
Clear plenty of space in your Camera's memory


and get ready to join in the fun next Sunday.

Further details later on.

John

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17 May 2010 11:35 #6 by john gannon (john gannon)
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daragh if a pair has not bred are they not just living in sin:silly:
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17 May 2010 21:53 #7 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
john gannon wrote:

daragh if a pair has not bred are they not just living in sin:silly:
john


No John, I call it living in hope!

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17 May 2010 22:01 #8 by dubfish (Alan Martin)
Are Malawi's and Tanganyikans,still judged as AFRICANS i.e one class?

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17 May 2010 22:27 #9 by Acara (Dave Walters)
Dubfish,I would hazzard a guess,that if there were enough of each,the higher the chance of the categorie being split,so start benching!

always on the lookout for interesting corys.pm me if you know off any!

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17 May 2010 22:41 #10 by JohnH (John)
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I'll leave Daragh to answer more fully, but I think Acara has it right - the more the merrier.
I would be nice to see something other than just Malawis.

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17 May 2010 23:35 #11 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
Yes if there are enough Tanganyikans they wouldn't have to be put in the same class as Malawi's or vise verse.
Once there is enough the class can be split.

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18 May 2010 00:35 #12 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
Lots of classes are sub-divided in the full FBAS class listing, believe of not there are potentially 22 classes for guppies alone!! But even the most extended version of the classes includes only 4 sub-sections for cichlids - crazy I know.

Naturally we will not have every one of the potential classes (we are unlikely to get 22 guppies, never mind 22 different types), but as mentioned previously some may be combined and other maybe split. It is at the discretion of the Show Secretary how to arrange the classes and if on the day there are enough entries a separate Tanganyikans class will be created.

PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE, anyone thinking of benching fish or thinking about it, PM me.

I have just written up the entry forms, paperwork and tank labels for the entries received by post and by PM, the more entries we get in advance of benching on Saturday evening the easier it will make the benching process.



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18 May 2010 20:49 #13 by john gannon (john gannon)
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daragh if there were enough shellies could there have a seperate class.i know this is highly unlikly but you never know what might happen
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18 May 2010 21:44 #14 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
John, anything could happen, but as you say that is a bit unlikely, again like I said earlier the FBAS never refine the cichlids down further than 4 groups, but we can if there are sufficient entries, so technically yes in the answer to your question.

Just an update on the number of entries received to date.

2 entries by post and 3 by PM.

I know people may not be 100% sure which fist they are bring or which they maybe able to catch, but they must have some idea, if someone provides a list of 8 fish they are bringing and turns up with 6 of those they stated and 4 different, well at least the paperwork is done for 60% of the fish, it won't cause me any problems to cross off the ones that didn't make it, I just have to add the new ones. So in case anyone is worried there fish on the day may not match their list 100% - don't worry - send your list anyway.


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