Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
Optiwhite 36 Inch X 12 Inch X12 Inch 1/4 In Glass
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Your thoughts? I love how this looks, it's crisp and clean and very minimal distortion.
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Someone I trust implicitly here on the Forum has voiced concerns as to it being ok, that's why I am worried but having done the calculator thingie on The Planted Tank and had replies from the guys there I am none the wiser, some say catagorically that it's perfectly safe others say it should be 8 mm to 10 mm.
Craig, I adore how they look, as I was filling it I could see the difference, the Water glistened and the transparency was immediately noticable, I do know , however that the Glass does scratch more easily so be careful.
I have about 20 Emerald Danio, 20 Galaxy Danio and 10 Rasbora kubotai and a dozen Amano Shrimp ready to go in, I have been Cycling a Filter with the intention of an easy and early transfer, I have been lucky doing this before and the bio load with these Fish is small. I intend using Oliver Knott and a lot of dwarfish planting with some nicely shaped Sandstone, I'm just trying to keep my mind busy.
@Darren, Yep, no brace, wonky Teeth lol, this seems to be the in thing at the moment with ADA on the scene with overhead Luninaires etc so it's a weird feeling looking at Tanks with no Braces so let's see how she goes.
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And do you think in ten years all tanks will be optiwhite? Well most of them

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@ Darren, will do, it's rare that something in the Fishie World gets me excited but this looks like it could inject a little ooomph into what had become a tad boring of late.
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like the sound of what's going in to it aswell
hope she holds for Ya
what's all this optiwhite talk, I haven't heard anything about it, is it some sort of new type of glass or aquarium or something ???
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Optiwhite is a type of Glass, it has no Iron in it and subsequently it is many times clearer, on it's side , it looks blue and not your typical Green, ADA, Amano's company started using them for his Planted Tanks and ADA Optiwhite Aquariums are really expensive.
Seahorse are doing ADA Tanks and equipment and it is sexier than something that is really sexy !
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here is a calculator I have used in the past - www.theaquatools.com/building-your-aquarium?page=1
it is specifically for rimless designs and based on the dimensions of your tank you have a safety factor greater than 5. The thing to bear in mind is that the tank depth and not the volume is the critical factor.
You should be ok with the 6mm glass. The opti-white does look amazing.
Just a thought, with regard to the clarity of the tank, ever thought of going with acrylic? I know it is easily scratched etc, but the clarity of the material is excellent. can easily be made rimless for a tank of the same size as this with 8 to 10mm thickness and is actually cheaper than the opti-white glass too. Also with the new solvent bonding compounds available, the joins are effectively welded and therefore there are no internal silicon beads, just adds to the overall look of the tank IMO.
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Haha ah it really does look cool though even the glass is deadly how clear it is. Make sure ye have plenty of pics of it when it's finished sounds like it will be A cracker.
Maybe not the best choice of words given Kev's worries!

Looks amazing though Kev, defnitely give us a load of pictures once you have it stocked. The clarity is so noticeable, you would wonder why tanks haven't been made of this for a long time!
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Ta for the link.
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I've let it in situ for the last few Days and all's well, no cracks or bows so I'll start the action over the Weekend.
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I'm so in love with them


Is it 10 or 12 mm ticknes ?
If that be mine i will put some suport bars on top of front and back glass and meaybe a conecting bar betwen front and rear glass, cracks might come with time in few months or a year time and that will be a shame

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Hi Stretnik,
here is a calculator I have used in the past - www.theaquatools.com/building-your-aquarium?page=1
it is specifically for rimless designs and based on the dimensions of your tank you have a safety factor greater than 5. The thing to bear in mind is that the tank depth and not the volume is the critical factor.
You should be ok with the 6mm glass. The opti-white does look amazing.
Just a thought, with regard to the clarity of the tank, ever thought of going with acrylic? I know it is easily scratched etc, but the clarity of the material is excellent. can easily be made rimless for a tank of the same size as this with 8 to 10mm thickness and is actually cheaper than the opti-white glass too. Also with the new solvent bonding compounds available, the joins are effectively welded and therefore there are no internal silicon beads, just adds to the overall look of the tank IMO.
Cheers,
As above, I have been in touch with the guys on the Planted Tank and used the various calculators and according to the majority, there is no problem with using 1/4 inch/ 5mm so it's a case of wait and see, the whole thing about ADA and Optiwhite Aquariums is the fact they are meant to be rimless and Braceless.
Kev.
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Thanks for the advice though.
Kev.
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Don't know what the heck happened to my reply above , the Tank is 36 inches x 12 x 12 and a 1/4 inch or 6 mm thickness, I don't mean to be rude but most of us know what Rims/braces are, been at this a LONG Time.
Thanks for the advice though.
Kev.
No problem

no offence taken

I tought that the tank is bigger, I just calculate it and its 100cm x 35cm , I will use 8 mm glass, but 6 should be good too,
Thanks too You I learn how you call those suports


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