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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Water damaged cabinet

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11 Jan 2008 13:38 #1 by TomNolan (Tommy Nolan)
Hi lads, this morning I was looking in the presses of my Jinlong tank and noticed water dripping down through the inside. It seems condensation has been dripping down the side of the tank and built up underneath it and seeped through it and below into the presses. Mildew had formed on the area it was dripping from. The tank is 468 litres so I'm a bit worried about it getting worse and the whole kitchen being flooded. I plan on giving my discus to my brother until I can find out how to dry it out/fix it etc. What should I do?


Regards

Tom

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11 Jan 2008 14:16 #2 by nomad (pat murphy)
Sorry to read about the problem you,ve just discovered Tom.Nowadays most units are manufactured from chipboard with a laminate surface and once chipboard comes into contact with water it loses its structure and strengh totally because of the expansion.

I had a 6foot tank years ago and after a while noticed something similar,it wasnt a worry though because although i had made the unit from veneered chipboard panels i had constructed an inner concealed framework from 4x3 inch timbers.Because my tank is only 180 litre and came with the free unit i didnt resort to such measures,my problems with the tank which in a way is as bad.
Sorry this is not much help but while chipboard is still on the market and coming into contact with water we,ll always have this problem,thats why its not used as a flooring in kitchens,bathrooms,wet areas etc anymore.....

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11 Jan 2008 15:17 #3 by paulbohs (Paul Doyle)
With that amount of weight, i'd build a new cabinet. Solid wood is not much more expensive than a manufactured stand if your a little handy. It will look much better too and you can add functionality you need. Alternatively, you could use marine plywood (cheaper) and standard 2x2 for the frame.

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11 Jan 2008 15:21 #4 by TomNolan (Tommy Nolan)
Cheers lads, my brother in law is a carpenter, I'll get him to build me one.

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17 Jan 2008 17:38 - 17 Jan 2008 17:42 #5 by TomNolan (Tommy Nolan)
I've taken the top off and luckily the inside of the actual cabinet isn't damaged. I'm getting a piece cut and shaped the exact same as the top piece and going to replace it and sealing up around the plastic rim at the top of the tank to stop the condensation, also getting some perspex slides cut.
Last edit: 17 Jan 2008 17:42 by TomNolan (Tommy Nolan).

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18 Jan 2008 01:15 #6 by Avonmore (Pat Cullen)
Tom, If you replace the top with 18mm Medex, a waterproof MDF, or even ordinary MDF, which won't turn to wheatabix when getting wet. MDF will swell slightly after a soaking but won't loose it's strenght. Medex is very stable and is used a lot in shop fronts etc but a bit more expencive. Solid wood can warp, twist and crack after a wetting and will grow mouldy as will MDF but not Medex. Medex will take a wood stain to match your cabinet but make sure to varnish it with a waterproof varnish just to protect the stain. Ideally, go to a kitchen manufacturer and get it sprayed with a A.C. Lacquer (2 Pack Lacquer) If you want, I can do this for you but it would have to be picked up from W.W.

Hope this info can help.

Pat

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18 Jan 2008 03:24 #7 by TomNolan (Tommy Nolan)
Cheers Pat, I'll look into it. I want to see how this top turns out and then I'll decide what to do. If it's not up to scratch I'll look into the options above.

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