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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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27 Sep 2012 23:10 #1 by dubdero (derek kearns)
Hello Internet been down last month so haven't been on .Question seen crack about three inches on under side of glass bottom at corner on trigon 190 can't fell it from inside .Thinkin of draining tank tomorrow and tryin to get some type of resin.cant see how it happened been sitting on the stand with bubble wrap between it for last two years .will windscreen resin do or any help appreciated. Cheers derek

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27 Sep 2012 23:56 #2 by BillG (Bill Gray)
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Unfortunately I don’t think the resin used to repair windscreens would work. In windscreen repairs, the resin is forced into the crack under vacuum pressure. Also bear in mind that the windscreen glass is laminated so it is a lot easier to repair. Typically a crack in the windscreen will only affect one layer of glass.
In the case of the aquarium, you don’t have the ability to inject such a resin under vacuum and a layer of the resin sitting on top of the glass will do no good. Also bear in mind that the tank base is only a single layer of glass. Given the amount of pressure the base of a tank is under, it is not worth risking either.

The only realistic and reliable options are to place a patch on the inside of the tank, at lease the same thickness of glass as the original base and ensure it’s well sealed with silicone. From what you say, this can not be done. The other option is to replace the whole tank base, in the case of the trigon this will be expensive as the glass will require specialist cutting and polishing to achieve the right shape.

Can you explain why the tank cant be fixed from the inside? is the crack under the internal filter box?
If so, it can be easily removed and re-installed after the tank is repaired. The internal box is only held in place with a few spots of silicone.
If you can get your hands on some braided fishing and a small steel object such as a small swivel and a magnet, you can easily get the braid down the back corner of the tank, under the filter and up in front of the filter. Then simply use the braid like a wire saw to cut through the silicone. Alternatively, a long thin blade such as a craft knife blade will cut the silicone away. The braid is a safer option as there is less risk of cutting yourself or aquarium corner seals.

If the crack is in a front corner, you could get a patch of glass cut to shape, all you would need is a template of the right shape cut out of paper or card. It will cost more than a square piece of glass but still a lot less than a whole new base for the tank.

Obviously any such repair job in the tank would require the tank to be drained and cleaned, and of course dried thoroughly before the application of any silicone. Would advise at least 2 to 3 days (Preferably 5 days to a week) to allow the new seals to fully cure before filling with water again. Would definitely recommend leak testing outdoors to ensure there is no risk of flooding the house.

Hope this helps :)

Cheers,

Bill.

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27 Sep 2012 23:57 - 27 Sep 2012 23:57 #3 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Tank crack
I don't know about the windscreen resin but this really needs more careful consideration.
Is the crack complete (ie going from one side to the other across the corner?).
If this is the case you might be OK to silicone a piece of glass covering the whole of the crack. But, it has to be found out why it appeared in the first place. Is it pretty well level? Sometimes the stress of being slightly out will cause a crack to appear.
Can you think of anything which might have caused this?
Perhaps you'll give it some thought and get back to the Forum.
In the meantime, does anyone else have any thoughts on a] how it might have happened and b] how to remedy the crack?

John

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27 Sep 2012 23:58 #4 by BillG (Bill Gray)
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Sorry John, both responding at the same time :)

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28 Sep 2012 00:37 #5 by JohnH (John)
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No worries, anyway yours was a much more comprehensive reply - I type so slowly that it might be the next day before I can get to the end...

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28 Sep 2012 08:16 #6 by dubdero (derek kearns)
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Thanks lad the crack is side to side corner of trigon .the reason why I don't think it would be able to fix from inside is can't feel it from inside seems underneath.thinking about it now I had a flood two weeks ago tank In attic flooded house and wooden floor swelled may have caused it.later Ill empty tank and update whats it like.floor doesn't seem swelled in that area thu.

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29 Sep 2012 21:38 #7 by JohnH (John)
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Derek,
Did you get around to emptying the tank?
Any pictures of the offending glass crack?

John

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30 Sep 2012 11:53 #8 by JustinK (Justin Kelly)
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Silicone a piece of glass inside the tank base right into the corner and extending over the crack by a few inches at least
or might be aswell/easy to get a triangle cut so only the bow isnt covered.
You can also rub some silicone into the crack. The crack will probably go right through when moving the tank anyway.
Pull the cabinet out and ensure the floor is level and also check the cabinet in position too checking both the top surface an the feet touching the floor. Stand on the floor area to to check for soft/lifted spots.
Maybe a camping mat or a foam base would be better than bubble wrap ?

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02 Oct 2012 13:35 #9 by dubdero (derek kearns)
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Lads I be doing it tomorrow I'll take a few pictures and upload them .have been fairly busy since last time.

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04 Oct 2012 22:19 #10 by dubdero (derek kearns)
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Embarrassed but the truth needs to be told.Here goes :sick: :blush: spent all day yesterday setting up tanks for fish and taken water out as I said had a crack only finished the job at one today.The crack wasnt a crack which I'm glad but a bit of silver tinsil between the bubble wrap and bottoms of tank.tank got a massive clean and levelled proper and the usual,May sound silly but looked so much like a crack.sorry for the time wasting lads :crazy:

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04 Oct 2012 22:57 #11 by JohnH (John)
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Embarrassed but the truth needs to be told.Here goes :sick: :blush: spent all day yesterday setting up tanks for fish and taken water out as I said had a crack only finished the job at one today.The crack wasnt a crack which I'm glad but a bit of silver tinsil between the bubble wrap and bottoms of tank.tank got a massive clean and levelled proper and the usual,May sound silly but looked so much like a crack.sorry for the time wasting lads :crazy:


No time wasted at all!

I'm delighted you didn't have anything more serious than some silver foil.

Anyway, look on the bright side - you got your Spring cleaning done early!

Great news.

John

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05 Oct 2012 07:57 #12 by JustinK (Justin Kelly)
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When you said you couldnt feel it on the inside
I was going to ask if it was a crack.
At least we got a bit of craic out of it

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05 Oct 2012 09:02 #13 by BillG (Bill Gray)
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Hi Dubero,

as John said, no time wasted at all :) glad to hear it was not a crack, better situation for you and your fish! And you got some bonus tips on how to replair a tank crack :)

Cheers,

Bill.

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05 Oct 2012 10:36 #14 by wylam (Stuart Sexton)
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Ha Ha i brought a tank back to my LFS shop one time and demanded a new one because there was a crack in the base.After i kicked up such a fuss he said he'd replace it.When he went to my car to get the "cracked" one . he pointed out that it was just a bit of silicone that hadn't been cleaned off after the tank had been made.

Don't think i've gone back there since.

Stuart.

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05 Oct 2012 12:15 #15 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)

The crack wasnt a crack which I'm glad but a bit of silver tinsil between the bubble wrap and bottoms of tank. :crazy:


:woohoo: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: so the fish had an early christmas party and didnt invite you and you get all upset and try to wreck their home :pinch: that laugh has made my morning :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: well no harm no foul,

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