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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Tropheus eating baby tropheus, is it possible ?

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19 Jan 2009 22:34 #1 by Mick0075 (Michael OSullivan)
My mouth brooding female just spat one of her fry, all the tropheus chased it. One of them caught it and swam to the other side of the tank and it looked like it swallowed it.

I did not know this could happen.

I have never seen them eating fry before

The fry was fully developed and ready to be relased.

Just wondering was this normal, I did not think they would do this !!

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19 Jan 2009 23:03 #2 by LimerickBandit (Donal Doran)
Fish eat fish ;)

Survival of the fittest

LB

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19 Jan 2009 23:22 - 19 Jan 2009 23:34 #3 by Darkrin (Damien Kane)
Answer= yes it does happen
Do you have mixed groups mick ?

With my kaisers(nothing else in the tank)the fry have been left alone.. up to this point anyways, the tank is hectic at the minute with different size fry ranging from 2.5" to 1", 25+ maybe in total, and i'm watching closely for the next batch to be released see if this niceness continues..

The tank in the Shop has Ilangis and Duboisi.. recently a female ilangi was holding and looked like she was going to burst, females had held 2-3 times before but no fry... so we decided to net this girl and strip her... As the nets went in.. she began to spit them, proper size for spitting.. and the duboisi milled them :angry: !! the others didn't seem interested...

Im interested in seeing how my old kaiser fry will react to more fry arriving..2 females holding now..the parent group have been trustworthy up to now..

Is it just other groups that attack fry.. is the answer im looking to find out...
The DUBOISI are coming out of the ilangi display this week.. so we'll see..
There are 3 ilangi fry survivors( different batches judging by size) in the display..and its only the duboisi that give them any hassle...:angry:

Dayo.
Last edit: 19 Jan 2009 23:34 by Darkrin (Damien Kane).

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20 Jan 2009 01:13 #4 by derek (Derek Doyle)
as with everything in nature there are no definites in tropheus fry predation or fry killing.
generally a settled group will ignore fry as the female will spit them into the rock crevices
and they dart in and out while acclimatising and the group gets used to them and they should be ok.
but if the female releases into the open the disoriented fry are attacked immediately as the other
fish regard anything new as food or a threat.
mixed groups tend to be harder to gauge and doubosi ime seem to be more inclined to eat other species fry
than moori.
i once put a rock that had been out in the garden into a mixed tropheus tank and piles of woodlice and earwigs
came out of the rock and were quickly polished off by all the tropheus esp the doubosi.

30 tanks specialise in african cichlids, angelfish and various catfish

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20 Jan 2009 03:43 #5 by Mick0075 (Michael OSullivan)
I have 3 generations of juveniles in the tank at the moment the oldest were born in june,

The latest female spat about 9 days ago and the fry are doing really well and have almost doubled in size these had no problems so I suppose was not expecting it.

The fry that were spat today are the first I have seen getting eaten.(probably not the first to be eaten in reality though)

Have spent the last couple of hours stripping the tank to catch mouth brooding female, I stripped her fry and put them in a fry brooder in the tank. (only two left but this is better than none.)

While I was at it I did a water change.
just after getting back into bed, my wife thinks I am nuts (shes probably right)

It seems you are right about the other group attacking the fry !! My Tropheus annectens Kekese are the ones with all the fye atm, and this is the first brood for my moorii Kambwimba. It was one of the annectens that eat the fry.

Hopefully the fry wont be long getting bigger and can join the rest of the group.

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