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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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25 Feb 2009 21:51 #1 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
looking to change the lighting in my tank , thinking one of the marine blue bulbs to hopefully really show off the fishes color. Anyone ever put one in or can anyone recommend a different combo of lighting setup. Sorry to make it clear i am thinking of replacing one of the two juwel bulbs to a maring blue and there is lake Maiwali cichlids in the tank.

Or it possible to get some led lights or something similar that would do the job and work in partnership with the original juwel lighting.

Cheers
GB

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26 Feb 2009 08:55 #2 by 2poc (2poc)
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Blue at the back & white at the front looks great!

I got a nice white interpet bulb in Brittas recently, (T8) it has a built in reflector. Much better than the old fashioned ones.

Not sure re: LED lighting, produces a nice effect but the stuff in the market at the moment is very new to the market & very dear so I'll be waiting a while before I look at it myself.

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26 Feb 2009 14:53 #3 by scubadim (scubadim)
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Hi Gerryberry,
I find blue at the front and white at the back quite effective and not to disagree with 2poc it's colors and taste...we're all different
As for bulbs,my favourite is Arcadia marine blue,it hasn't go built-in reflector like the interpet blue moon but brightens the colour of fish without giving a light blue tint to the whole tank.
hope this helps...
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26 Feb 2009 20:07 #4 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Thanks lads, out today and seen the juwel marine blue bulb, mad the price difference when you look around, 62 euros in one shop and 38 in another.

Can you tell me if any bulb will fit the juwel tank once it is the correct lenght, like the Arcadia marine blue mentioned below?

And stupid question, do the end caps fit any bulb also, thinking that once the diameter is the same as a juwel bulb they should fit ok.

Cheers

GB

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26 Feb 2009 22:35 #5 by peter (peter campbell)
I just bought a set of blue LED moon lights off ebay.
BEST THING EVER
they were under €20 for 2 sets and thats including p x p
post pics 2morrow

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27 Feb 2009 00:35 #6 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
I myself have a mix of 3 bulbs in my Tanganyikan tank, a sunglow, a moonglow blue bulb and another type which for the life of me i cant remember the name but it has a reddish tint to it, it brings the colours alive in the fish in my opinion and a moonglow blue also brought out colours i never had seen before in my fish.. well worth the investment, i also think it looks superb at night when i have it on by itself it dosent seem to startle fish and shows you some nocturnal activities you dont normally see, and i used think they just slept but my frontosas are highly active at this dusk period in my tank..... love it go for it

Fishkeeping the Only way to get wet and wild

currently 25 tanks, and breeding is the aim of everything i keep
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27 Feb 2009 09:09 #7 by 2poc (2poc)
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P.s. Gerry - cracking cichlids in petstop blanch at the moment.
Well worth a visit, the nice ones will go fast over the weekend

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27 Feb 2009 10:36 #8 by scubadim (scubadim)
Replied by scubadim (scubadim) on topic Re:Change lighting
Hi there (",)
Arcadia T8 bulbs fit all juwel tanks,we've got one on a Vision 260(42").
I can tell you which size fits juwel tank if you need.
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27 Feb 2009 21:21 #9 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Scubadim
if you know the Arcadia bulb to fit a juwel 240 it would be great, might get a chance this weekend to have a look at them. Cheers

2Poc
Going up north tomorrow :angry: :angry: :angry: might get a chance to go over tomorrow afternoon, did you see anything nice that would go with a few yellow labs, maybe something blue?? Did you get anything nice yourself??

Peter
Would be well interested in the photo of the tank with the leds, what size tank do you have and how do they mount the lights in the tank.

Sheag
I take it your tank is not a juwel, i find its one of the down falls of the juwel that you cannot switch the lights seperately and that you cannot get to the control gear to rewire them to two seperate swithches. Similar to you Sheag i would like the option to see the fish under less obstrusive light and see what they get up to, thats why i am thinking of led lights. Also i would like to set them up on timeclocks so that there is not just a switch on to full lights and a switch off to no lights, a nice dusk soft lighting would be nice, well that my 2 cents worth :huh:

Cheers lads

GB

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01 Mar 2009 14:17 #10 by scubadim (scubadim)
Replied by scubadim (scubadim) on topic Re:Change lighting
The right bulb size for rio 240 in arcadia t8 bulb is 42".
all d best.
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01 Mar 2009 21:29 #11 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Cheers Scubadim, can you tell me what the difference is between t8 and t5 lights, I taught t5 were a better more advanced lighting system but what do i know:unsure:

Thanks

GB

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02 Mar 2009 09:05 #12 by 2poc (2poc)
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I picked up 8 fish in petstop Gerry, I had some on special order.

I got:

1 M. Greshaki, 2 Placidochromis phenochilus "Star Sapphire", 2 Ps. Polit, 3 Ps. Elongatus Chailosi


He had lots of nice blue fish, the Greshaki were especially nice.

Gosvenor aquatics in Lisburn is supposed to be a good spot to visit if you're up North.

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02 Mar 2009 17:36 #13 by scubadim (scubadim)
Replied by scubadim (scubadim) on topic Re:Change lighting
Yes T5 are the most recent bulbs out there,for the same length than T8 and smaller diameter,these bulbs have 150% of the T8 light output.
just understood you had a T8 unit.

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02 Mar 2009 21:08 #14 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Cheers Scubadim, should of made myself clearer, i have t5 bulbs at the moment sorry about the confusion.

2Poc
Managed to get over to Petstore on Saturday, your bang on, there were some very nice fish over there. It was tough to leave empty handed but i knew i would be tinkering with the tank till i got it the way i wanted it so i resisted the urge to get a bag full:( :( :(

There was a fish in the top right hand tank of the cichlids tanks section, it had a black like body about 4" in lenght and had like blue spots down the top side of his back, very impressive looking fish, would you by chance have any idea what it is?? it looked like a Maingano Cichlid going by the pics stuck beside the tank but i wouldn,t be a 100% as there were several pics that looked very similar. The lad i was talking to said a Maingano but i got the impression that he was not quite sure himself.

Must have a look at a few pics of your new fish, how many do you have in your 400 litre now?

Cheers

GB

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02 Mar 2009 22:02 #15 by Puggy (Fergus Cooke)
Its not really the case that T5 are 150% brighter than T8, its just they are a higher wattage in a smaller package, so you can cram more bulbs into the same space. T5 high output or T5(ho) as used in the aquatic world are in fact less efficent than T5.

If you really want to know about T5 and T8 lighting read on www.lrc.rpi.edu/programs/nlpip/lightingA...rs/lat5/abstract.asp , it is aimed at the American market.

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03 Mar 2009 08:54 #16 by 2poc (2poc)
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That fish was a ps. Neon Spot Gerry.
I have a breeding pair of them at the moment.

Lovely fish.

I have about 70 fish now in the 400 litre.
Some are juveniles though so its not as heavily stocked as it sounds.

I also have 70 fry growing on in another tank & 3 holding females in the main tank.

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03 Mar 2009 10:04 #17 by scubadim (scubadim)
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48"T8=36w
48"T5=54w....roughly 150% output/wattage
also it's not the brightness...

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03 Mar 2009 12:41 #18 by 2poc (2poc)
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scubadim wrote:

48"T8=36w
48"T5=54w....roughly 150% output/wattage
also it's not the brightness...


T5 is definitely the way to go!!
Not worth scaling up from T8 unless you have a requirement for lots of light or your T8 light unit breaks though...

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03 Mar 2009 20:30 #19 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Cheers on the lighting lads, think i will go with the T5 marine bulb and cross my fingers that it turns out alright, thinking of getting the reflectors aswell to alter the light beam.

2Poc
Some amount of fish, you must post another video soon. The Ps elongatus neon spot hai reef cichlids was most impressive, seriously thinking of getting a few. Ordered a few yellow labs, collecting on Thursday but might get a few of these boys in aswell. Is the female the same colour, size or how do you tell them apart. Do you know if they are suitable with yellow labs??

Cheers

GB

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03 Mar 2009 21:39 #20 by Puggy (Fergus Cooke)
scubadim wrote:

48"T8=36w
48"T5=54w....roughly 150% output/wattage
also it's not the brightness...


Sure T5 high output is the way to go. Dont forget it also uses more power, ie the wattage. The real advantage is the tubes are smaller, so you get more into the lid of a tank... Though the older ones have a higher efficacy, ie they give more lumens per watt of electricity.:huh:

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04 Mar 2009 08:52 #21 by 2poc (2poc)
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gerryberry wrote:

Cheers on the lighting lads, think i will go with the T5 marine bulb and cross my fingers that it turns out alright, thinking of getting the reflectors aswell to alter the light beam.

2Poc
Some amount of fish, you must post another video soon. The Ps elongatus neon spot hai reef cichlids was most impressive, seriously thinking of getting a few. Ordered a few yellow labs, collecting on Thursday but might get a few of these boys in aswell. Is the female the same colour, size or how do you tell them apart. Do you know if they are suitable with yellow labs??

Cheers

GB


Female neon spot can show full male colour but is usually more faded kind of purple.
Difficult to tell the difference as sub dominant males look like females..

They'll do fine with the labs, should be a nice mix actually.

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04 Mar 2009 20:08 #22 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Once again cheers 2Poc, definitely my next fish on the hit list.

GB

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09 Mar 2009 20:57 #23 by gerryberry (Jeff Daly)
Any pics Peter of the leds in tank, would be interested to see how they worked out for you.

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