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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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04 Apr 2009 06:51 #1 by faraday (paul smith)
pop-eye was created by faraday (paul smith)
does anyone know the best way to treat pop-eye ,this only appered yesterday and the fish has stopped eatin i have him in a hospital tank,have looked on the net for treatments but not very helpfull,.

any advise would be helpfull

thanks

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04 Apr 2009 13:32 - 06 Apr 2009 04:44 #2 by Trimax (Trimax)
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Hi there what kind of fish is it?? Is it new or has it been there a long time.

Pop Eye is caused by a similar bacterial infection that causes Dropsy, very common killer in goldfish but I rarely see it in Cichlids. It's usually a secondary illness, ie the outward manifestation of and internal illness and the number one cause is poor water quality. Have you made any recent changes to your set up that may have adversly affected conditions such as adding several new fish or overcleaning your tank?

Fortunatly it's easy to cure this illness provided it's caught early. The interpet "anti internal bacteria" remedy works well and is available in any decent pet shop that sells fish. also melafix works well but is more expensive, it's made from all natural ingredients and is a bit easier on the fish.

So choose one of these (not the two together!)
Each dosage needs to be carefully calculated, I suggest treating the whole tank to avoid a reoccurance.

If you use any chemical filtraion such as carbon you need to remove it for the duration of the treatment. If you use Organic aqua filtration then you must use Melafix only. Some aquarium salt may help but it's benifits are disputed when it comes to cichlids esp American cichlids as they don't like salts.

A pic of the fish would help make a better judgement.

Also remember that after treating the fish it is important to get to the root cause and fix it. usually it's poor water quality.

Make sure it's the correct diagnosis also, as an injured eye can occur due to fighting amongst cichlids and can take the appearance of cloudy eye and be confused with something more sinister like pop eye.

Best of luck hope this helped!
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04 Apr 2009 15:21 #3 by Ian (Anthony Ramirez)
Replied by Ian (Anthony Ramirez) on topic Re:pop-eye
Trimax wrote:

Hi there what kind of fish is it?? Is it new or has it been there a long time.

Pop Eye is caused by the same bacterial infection that causes Dropsy, very common killer in goldfish but I rarely see it in Cichlids. It's usually a secondary illness, ie the outward manifestation of and internal illness and the number one cause is poor water quality. Have you made any recent changes to your set up that may have adversly affected conditions such as adding several new fish or overcleaning your tank?

Fortunatly it's easy to cure this illness provided it's caught early. The interpet "anti internal bacteria" remedy works well and is available in any decent pet shop that sells fish. also melafix works well but is more expensive, it's made from all natural ingredients and is a bit easier on the fish.

So choose one of these (not the two together!)
Each dosage needs to be carefully calculated, I suggest treating the whole tank to avoid a reoccurance.

If you use any chemical filtraion such as carbon you need to remove it for the duration of the treatment. If you use Organic aqua filtration then you must use Melafix only. Some aquarium salt may help but it's benifits are disputed when it comes to cichlids esp American cichlids as they don't like salts.

A pic of the fish would help make a better judgement.

Also remember that after treating the fish it is important to get to the root cause and fix it. usually it's poor water quality.




Hello allan you raised a curious point on your first long paragragh re overcleaning your tank, any chance you can elaborate that and it's causes to dropsy and popeye?

Make sure it's the correct diagnosis also, as an injured eye can occur due to fighting amongst cichlids and can take the appearance of cloudy eye and be confused with something more sinister like pop eye.

Best of luck hope this helped!


Fishkeeping CV: Co-founded, 1st President of the only surviving Fishkeeping Club (Accredited by Dept. of Fisheries) in the Philippines (mypalhs.com). I have mostly reared tropicals - Arowanas and monster fishes. My oldest arowana is 13years old (died in a tropical storm). Ive since reared a Black,...

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04 Apr 2009 15:23 #4 by Ian (Anthony Ramirez)
Replied by Ian (Anthony Ramirez) on topic Re:pop-eye
Sorry mods my post got mixed with jim's and I meant to ask jim rather than allan

Fishkeeping CV: Co-founded, 1st President of the only surviving Fishkeeping Club (Accredited by Dept. of Fisheries) in the Philippines (mypalhs.com). I have mostly reared tropicals - Arowanas and monster fishes. My oldest arowana is 13years old (died in a tropical storm). Ive since reared a Black,...

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05 Apr 2009 17:08 #5 by Trimax (Trimax)
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Any update on the fish Faraday?

Hi Ian what were you gonna ask me?

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05 Apr 2009 17:40 #6 by faraday (paul smith)
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hello,he still the same doesnt seem to be getting any better or any worse ,have treated the main tank he was in and the hospital tank he is in now,.water conditions were ok as i do regular water changes and tests ,not much more i can realy do is just to keep treating and hope for the best ,.this is the worst part of fish keeping i hate getting sick fish and losing them,.

thanks for your help

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05 Apr 2009 18:09 #7 by Trimax (Trimax)
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sorry to hear that, what treatment are you using?

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05 Apr 2009 18:12 #8 by faraday (paul smith)
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interpet "anti internal bacteria, that u advised i had some already .u never no he mite pull through

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05 Apr 2009 18:14 #9 by Sean (Fr. Jack)
Replied by Sean (Fr. Jack) on topic Re:pop-eye
Trimax wrote:


Pop Eye is caused by the same bacterial infection that causes Dropsy, very common killer in goldfish but I rarely see it in Cichlids. It's usually a secondary illness, ie the outward manifestation of and internal illness and the number one cause is poor water quality. !


Cloady eye is poor water quality or too low temp (22C), by just increasing the temp and improving water quality will cure this, pop eye is more common in western atlantic angles, e.g queen or blue angle, if they get it they need real antibiotics, not anti bacterial meds (don't really have anti biotics in them.) The easiest way to get antibiotics is bring them back from a chemist in Spain or any pet store in the U.S.

www.metacafe.com/watch/1356468/classical_cartoon_popeye

That would be a ecumenical matter!!!

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05 Apr 2009 18:43 #10 by faraday (paul smith)
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thanks for the link sean very helpfull.

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06 Apr 2009 04:02 - 06 Apr 2009 04:42 #11 by Trimax (Trimax)
Replied by Trimax (Trimax) on topic Re:pop-eye
Sean wrote:

Trimax wrote:


Pop Eye is caused by the same bacterial infection that causes Dropsy, very common killer in goldfish but I rarely see it in Cichlids. It's usually a secondary illness, ie the outward manifestation of and internal illness and the number one cause is poor water quality. !


Cloady eye is poor water quality or too low temp (22C), by just increasing the temp and improving water quality will cure this, pop eye is more common in western atlantic angles, e.g queen or blue angle, if they get it they need real antibiotics, not anti bacterial meds (don't really have anti biotics in them.) The easiest way to get antibiotics is bring them back from a chemist in Spain or any pet store in the U.S.

www.metacafe.com/watch/1356468/classical_cartoon_popeye


Well I doubt he's gonna go to Spain for meds! thanks for posting a cartoon and dismissing my genuine attempt to help someone. I do actually know that cichlid popeye CAN be cured by a fishes own immune system with something like melafix and allot of tlc to help. in the absence of availability of drugs like marycyn/marycyn2 in Ireland I am giving pragmatic advice . I have seen popeye in cichlids before and both treatments I mentioned worked. Who said anything about angelfish anyway? Of course a broad range antibody would be better but as I said I am being pragmatic here. What this fish needs is Excellent water quality and minimum stressers, ie peace and quiet and preferably not a brightly lit tank. Diet should be taken into consideration as vitamin A deficiency is a common cause of issues like this and an antibacterial remedy that is actually available in this country ie melafix/anti internal bacteria.

Also and even better is Azoo's Cichlasoma magic treater available from petshoponline.ie
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