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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Cichlids finally living in the wild EEC

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26 Sep 2009 21:58 - 19 Oct 2009 19:54 #1 by Sean (Fr. Jack)


They are living here in this 150 billion gallon aquarium without any heaters or pumps.

www.panoramicearth.com

White cloads and 100s of thousands of live bearers.:laugh:

That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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04 Oct 2009 03:21 #2 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
I dont get it :unsure:
Sean are you saying these are living in the sea? White clouds in the sea?:unsure:

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04 Oct 2009 05:09 #3 by Ian (Anthony Ramirez)
Looks like escondidos or is that carpinte?

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17 Oct 2009 13:32 - 19 Oct 2009 19:57 #4 by Sean (Fr. Jack)
No not the sea, I would not say they would live very long there:laugh:
I heard they were added to a freshwater river that never dries out in the north east of Majorca by Spanish fish keeper.

having say that were the river meets the sea its timing with live bearer they look exactly like large female gubbys with no colour the males look similar the female have the gravid black dot under neath.

These species were picked as they suited to low freswater water temps winter cheak out the Texas weather and the Majorca weather its similar

www.eldoradocountyweather.com/current/cl.../houstonclimate.html (texas Ciclid)
www.travelchinaguide.com/climate/shanghai.htm (white cload)



Majorca weather in January - maximum 13°C, minimum 4°C. Mallorca weather in February maximum 14°C, minimum 5°C. Majorca weather in March maximum 16°C, minimum 7°C. Majorca weather in April maximum 17°C, minimum 8°C. Mallorca weather in May maximum 20°C, minimum 12°C. Mallorca weather in June maximum 24°C, minimum 16°C. Mallorca weather in July maximum 27°C, minimum 19°C. Mallorca weather in August maximum 28°C, minimum 19°C. Mallorca weather in September maximum 26°C, minimum 17°C. Mallorca weather in October maximum 21°C, minimum 12°C. Mallorca weather in November maximum 17°C, minimum 8°C. Mallorca weather in December maximum 14°C, minimum 6°C.

www.iknow-majorca.co.uk/tourist_informat...eratures_majorca.htm

That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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17 Oct 2009 17:01 - 17 Oct 2009 17:20 #5 by scubadim (scubadim)
Replied by scubadim (scubadim) on topic Re:Cichlids finally living in the wild EEC
Hi everybody,
is it just me or is that cool to introduce species of fish in a river that they don't originate from,like "Texas" cichlid to a river in Majorca?
i don't get it...

actually,i think this is outrageous!
this non sense has been done all over the world with all sorts of consequences!

People just mess with everything without thinking,i can't believe someone would actually be proud of another one of those actions.
What about endemic species of aquatic life in that particular river in Majorca?

This is my point of view!
Thanks for reading.
Dimitri.
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17 Oct 2009 19:36 #6 by Acara (Dave Walters)
Couldn't agree more Dimitri,theres enough environmental disasters around the globe without this sort of BS.

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18 Oct 2009 00:38 #7 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
Sean what was your reaction when your "friend's friend" told you this?

Give them an open handed slap from me.

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19 Oct 2009 12:00 #8 by scubadim (scubadim)
Replied by scubadim (scubadim) on topic Re:Cichlids finally living in the wild EEC
Hi everybody,
I'm happy to see some support.
another fact i'd like to add.not sure wether you can consider "black eared sun perch" Lepomis gibbosus as a cichlid but it's been in french rivers for decades(it's an american specie).it is now considered as pest.the common catfish,Ictalurus nebulosus introduced in France as food fish i don't know how long ago(american specie):pest.The famous nile perch,Lates niloticus introduced everywhere,(one fine exemple:Malawi lake)is destroying the cichlid population.
we should do our best to avoid this.

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19 Oct 2009 13:49 #9 by gardoyle27 (Gareth Doyle)
another good example of this are the snakeheads in the USA, there ravaging native species, another man made mistake is african rock pythons kept as pets in florida are another pest also a man made disaster

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19 Oct 2009 19:14 #10 by Acara (Dave Walters)
Zebra mussels,freshwater crayfish,all in various countries,in NZ we have brown and rainbow trout and now carp,we could go on and on...
The list is endless and I would've hoped giving all the examples that this sort of carry on would have been stopped,I guess theres always some brainless idiot who will continue to do these things.I just hope they are caught and charged,although the damage is already done.

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19 Oct 2009 20:02 #11 by Sean (Fr. Jack)
Yes I agree its a mindless Spanish fish keeper, having said that did Jack Cousteau add calapera to the northern med 20 years ago, the highly sort after green aquarium sea plant is a menace that has spread all over the med I recall he was proud of itat the time.

That would be a ecumenical matter!!!

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19 Oct 2009 21:15 #12 by scubadim (scubadim)
Replied by scubadim (scubadim) on topic Re:Cichlids finally living in the wild EEC
I will correct you on that one,it's the oceanographic museum in Monaco ,who sources it's water by pumping sea water straight from the Mediterranean sea ,had released fragments of Caulerpa.as you know this seaweed now has taken over the endemic seaweed called Posidonies.now this particular seaweed was already disappearing due to pollution.it was a disaster since it was the natural habitat to many species and breeding ground for others.the good thing is,it is now the stronger seaweed Caulerpa who has become refugium for most of the species which depended on Posidonies.that was a lucky one.
There has been a huge talk about wether it is or not a good thing about this Caulerpa in the Mediterranean sea.personally I would rather have Posidonies but they were already disappearing leaving a bare sandy bottom...

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20 Oct 2009 18:36 #13 by Sean (Fr. Jack)



scubadim wrote:

I will correct you on that one,it's the oceanographic museum in Monaco ,who sources it's water by pumping sea water straight from the Mediterranean sea ,had released fragments of Caulerpa.as you know this seaweed now has taken over the endemic seaweed called Posidonies.now this particular seaweed was already disappearing due to pollution....



Its still lifes along side calepera around Majorca, my Spanish wife Uncle is retired state maine bioligist he said it was Cousteaus fault, I cant verify this is true though. One this is true the water quality in Majorca does support Posidonia.


Here is where Posidonia live in Majorca
www.balearslifeposidonia.eu/index.php

As its an Irish Forium and most Irish tourist end up in Santa Ponsa, here some thing just as weired wild green parrots living in the wild in the trees,, there are some many of them they having taken over all the trees near the beach in Santa Ponsa.

209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:_Ceu93Dp14...&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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20 Oct 2009 20:17 #14 by PAULHARTE25 (PAUL HARTE)
i've seen this first hand in may this year,on the costa del sol,trees were full of them

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20 Oct 2009 21:39 #15 by scubadim (scubadim)
Replied by scubadim (scubadim) on topic Re:Cichlids finally living in the wild EEC
The first reports of the presence of Caulerpa was around the Oceanographic museum in Monaco.they got the cuttings from Germany.at the time Cousteau was at the head of the museum,you can say it's his fault.
Saying this he didn't deliberately introduce it.there is a difference between some idiot in Spain and somebody like Cousteau who dedicated his entire life to wild life protection,especially marine.
Thank you.
Dimitri.

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