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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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01 Jan 2010 17:39 #1 by fish4brains (Brian Currie)
Hi all i have mumba cichlids in my 180ltr tank i have two plecs to eat all the crap the bottom but they are not doing there job. I hardly see them they are allways under rocks. is there any other type of fish that will clean up some of the algee on the glass and hows many would i need. lets see what you come up with cheers

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01 Jan 2010 18:41 #2 by padraigr (Padraig Rooney)
Hi Fish

With my limited knowledge of pleos I would say they probably are doing their job but are probably more active in the evening & when there is little lighting. In relation to the algae on the glass my plecos do a lot of work on the glass but there is no substitute for a bit of elbow grease. I have 2 plecos & have 16 small to medium cichlids. I'm not sure how accurate this info is it is just from my own experience & am open to correction.

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01 Jan 2010 18:43 #3 by paulbohs (Paul Doyle)
yeah no fish really does what you want to have any great impact. Extra Water movement to stir up the crap at the bottom and keep the tank clean by the external filter having more chance to suck it up. A phosphate reactor with rowaphos will sort the algae on the glass. lights + nitrate + phosphate = algae

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01 Jan 2010 21:00 #4 by reefpaddy (paddy kelly)
is the tank exposed to natural light?

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01 Jan 2010 21:50 #5 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
fish4brains wrote:

Hi all i have mumba cichlids in my 180ltr tank i have two plecs to eat all the crap the bottom but they are not doing there job. I hardly see them they are allways under rocks. is there any other type of fish that will clean up some of the algee on the glass and hows many would i need. lets see what you come up with cheers


I have a small problem with this, plecs need to be fed correctly,its unfair of them to be used as a cleaner fish and not fed to their diet as per the wild etc. They can't be expected to eat fish poo etc!! In terms of the algae problem, get a magnet cleaner and do a clean of the glass with that every so often. If you have a sand substrate be very careful not to get any sand trapped between the glass and the magnet,as it will leave a rather unpleasant scrath on your tank. Also I find a razor blade such as the ones you'd get in the stanley knifes work perfect for clearing algae and you'd be amazed at what algae is barely visible when you clean the glass with the blade. Just mind the corners and seals on the tank so you dont take some of that away also!!!

Gavin

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02 Jan 2010 17:19 #6 by conor (conor)
try changing some water often, high nitrates in the water will cause unwanted algae growth... about 20% of the total volume weekly will suffice

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03 Jan 2010 10:07 #7 by Peter OB (Peter O'Brien)
Get rid of the plecos if all you have them for is to clean up. They will not eat crap nor will they even make any dent in the algae on your glass.Pleco's being "cleaner fish" is a total myth.

Weekly water change followed by a quick manual clean of the glass is all you need to do.

Smoke me a Kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast.

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03 Jan 2010 14:39 #8 by padraigr (Padraig Rooney)
I wouldn't agree entirely about getting rid of the plecos as I do think they do some work in the tank but not as much as some people would lead you to believe. As i indicated earlier ther is no substitute for for a bit of elbow grease to clean the glass. Padraigr

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03 Jan 2010 16:36 #9 by fish4brains (Brian Currie)
cheers for the help guys....

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03 Jan 2010 17:26 #10 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Stop being a lazy and get of ur arse and clean ur tank ha ha ha ha ha

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