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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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Regards,Tim
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Keeping and breeding : Frontosa Blue Zaires , Synodontis Petricola , Tropheus Red Rainbow (Kasanga) , Tropheus Moliro . Regulary fry for sale.
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Well done Tim,I'm sure Tom would love a few of them synos considering his loss.
Regards Alan..
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Very well detailed Derek,and fair play for your efforts on such an awkward situation.
Well done Tim,I'm sure Tom would love a few of them synos considering his loss.
Well done Tim, that's great news, you have more than me now, I have 3 Multi Fry about 10mm I removed from the main tank, so I don't know who brooded the fry.........Tom.
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Fascinating thread all round.
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you can clearly see the huge size of the squatter compared to the host.
it is strange that the catfish choose a fish like careleus to brood their fry as they have one of the smallest mouths among malawi or tang mouthbrooders.
the young female lab probably tried to hold the fry too long and when she did try to evict him, he had outgrown the mouth opening and was trapped.
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Still, worth the try.
Thanks for sharing the sequence from start to finish.
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We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.
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i am also curious to know what age the catfish was. if tim and toms normally released babies were 7 to 10 mm at say 3 weeks. this big baby was 30mm long and 6 to 7mm diameter across its swollen looking head.
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"...also it surprised me that there was no info on the internet on a situation that must happen from time to time"
Well, there is now! Just as long as 'searchers' can find this thread on Google (not that I'm certain they'll be able to). Perhaps it could help if the thread title were changed to something a little more explanatory? But I don't really know how people gain more prominence for subjects on Google, anyone else?
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Maybe the lack of info on the internet was the unhappy ending in the previous cases as well...
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It’s always great to learn something new and we certainly did this time, you are a wealth of knowledge, can you thank Chris for his the photo’s as it’s not something you are going to see very often.
Tom.

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hi darrenI'm a little bit surprised they dont feed of the caeruleus eggs if they develop much faster. Or do they?
they do feed on the cichlid eggs and fry, and with a captive food supply that means they grow much faster. as far as i know the catfish hatch within 48 hrs and have little or no yolk sac. so they immediately start feeding on the cichlid eggs and later on the cichlid fry.
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48 hours. No wonder there is no eggsac. If they developed any quicker they would probably start to eat themselves.
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