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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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02 Mar 2010 22:24 - 04 Mar 2010 01:47 #1 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Hey folks,

Im setting up 240ltr tank for my brother and he has decided to go with Malawi mbunas. The substrate and rockwork is sorted and now we are deciding what to stock it with. He is new to fishkeeping and as I have limited experience with African Cichlids we could use some advice here. There will definately be yellow labs in the setup so any advice regard to compatable species and male/female ratios would be great. Also, I know they should be overstocked to minimise aggression so if I could get some advice on the overall number of fish for a tank this size, that too would be a great help. Cheers lads,

Jay

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04 Mar 2010 01:10 #2 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
I was thinking mabey some Acei and Red Zebras?

Jay

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04 Mar 2010 01:46 #3 by JohnH (John)
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Jay,
I'm sorry you haven't had a reply to this question.
My suggestion would be for you to send PMs to some of the more prominent Malawi people on here (one especially springs to mind).
I have modified your heading in the hope this gets a bit more attention for you.
John.

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04 Mar 2010 08:23 #4 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Thanks a million John, yeah the title was a rush job :S .

Jay

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04 Mar 2010 08:36 #5 by stretnik (stretnik)
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Give me a buzz with a list when ur ready, might be able to help.

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04 Mar 2010 09:11 #6 by 2poc (2poc)
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Hi Jay,

I'll try & help you out, I've kept lots of Malawis & still have a large Hap tank & a few mbuna in a smaller tank.

The ratio is generally 1 male to 3 females, having less females can result in the male continuously harrassing the female(s).

This is only if you want to breed them, if you don't then an all male tank is a good option as it will cut down on aggro & provide plenty of diversity and colour.

People starting with Malawis always make the same mistake.
They go to the petshop, pick some colourful fish, lump them together & then go off & find out what they have. This is a really bad idea & its important to pass this message onto your pal...

Generally they end up with headbanger species like Auratus and Kenyi resulting in there being just one fish in the tank a few months later having become hyperdominant and killed everything else.

So research before buying is key! This is obviously what you are doing so its great that he's getting off to a good start!

Species wise, I think these would mix nicely:

Ps. Acei - Yellow tail or White tail
L. Careleous
Ps. Demasoni - need to be kept in a good sized group
Ps. Estherea
Ps. Neon spot

All of the above have colourful males and females.

These fish are very territorial & will bash newcomers so best to add the fish in groups - I find 3 at a time works well, more if possible & keep an eye on new arrivals.

New Life Spectrum cichlid pellets will cater for their diet

As for numbers, I would put about 30 fish in 240 litres.
Plenty of aeration, plenty of filtration & a big weekly water change.

Hope that helps,
Patrick

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04 Mar 2010 12:08 - 04 Mar 2010 12:09 #7 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Patrick your a gent, thanks a million. I have seen all male tanks and mentioned to him and he liked the idea. Just a matter of sourcing them I guess. Just one more question, if he does go with an all male setup, how many males of each species would he get away with? Cheers,

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04 Mar 2010 12:57 #8 by 2poc (2poc)
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No problem Jay.

Re: The all male tank, males of different species mix especially well once they don't have similar colour/patterns so you can keep a huge amount of species.
This is what I did to start off with, its a bit of a Noahs ark but gives great exposure to different species & you can find out which you really like.

If keeping same species groups of males they should be kept in odd number groups of at least 3.

The dominance in cichlid tanks can be rough to watch, especially between groups of males.
I had to remove a big male yellow lab from my tank recently, a real Don Juan, father of countless as he got a serious beating from what would be his great great grandson.

They can be ruthless in their aggression & you need to be prepared to act fast or you end up with dead fish.

In saying that, the activity, colour, character more than makes up for it.
Totally different from those shy, flat yokes - what are they called - discus? :ohmy: :laugh:

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04 Mar 2010 16:12 #9 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Nice one Patrick, thanks for taking the time to help me out. More than enough info there to make an informed decision. Will be sure to get him to post a vid when this is up an running. Thanks again,

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04 Mar 2010 20:00 #10 by 2poc (2poc)
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You're very welcome Jay.

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