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Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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22 Sep 2010 15:03 #1
by roealdo (j)
How long do they take to mature. Was just reading up on them and it says 3-6 years to mature and get the breeding process right.
Is that right? Didn’t think it would be that long!
In generally how long to fish take to mature? Does it vary alot?
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22 Sep 2010 15:30 #2
by Gavin (Gavin)
It's like saying how long is a piece of string really.Depends on water quality,diet etc.The closer you have to perfection on these the quicker they develop. I've have whopper mature males three years doing the biz with females.Derek doyle and mick veale are the real local authority with first hand experience and no googlefingers!
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22 Sep 2010 15:36 #3
by roealdo (j)
Thanks for the reply.
Thought as much when I posted this.
But the reason why I ask is that I've never seen any adult specimens in shops and I was wondering is that because of how long it take to mature.
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22 Sep 2010 15:44 #4
by Gavin (Gavin)
you very rarely see adult sp[ecimens of anything in shops for a variety of reasons,one is that breeders/wholesalers don't want to hang on to large fish as they are too expensive to feed and ship,most shops don't want adult fish for the same reason,they would rather get you to special order wild caughts and ship them direct (megga megga money).occasionally someone changes their setup and they bring a large specimen in that's where you see the majority of whopper specimens comming from..
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22 Sep 2010 15:47 #5
by Gavin (Gavin)
It's more fun to grow them on anyways!
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22 Sep 2010 15:54 #6
by roealdo (j)
Never thought of it like that.
It doesnt bother my the size of mine at the moment. I'd watch them what ever size but it would be nice to have a few big ones!
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22 Sep 2010 16:03 #7
by Gavin (Gavin)
Had a lovely pair myself last year.The nunchal hump on the male was just massive.took a while to get there but well worth the wait.
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22 Sep 2010 16:08 #8
by Gavin (Gavin)
another reason for not seeing large specimens of fish is the agression factor, you can only have one large male taking up a whole tank where and you could be waiting a while for a customer who needs a spcimen fish..on the other hand you could sell ten small ones in the same time.it's economics i'm afriad.we plan on doing a new section in the new year just for specimen fish though.we'll see how it goes.
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22 Sep 2010 16:24 #9
by roealdo (j)
Pity
I wouldn't mind having what I have and a few mature ones. Intersting to see how it turns out for you
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22 Sep 2010 16:27 #10
by mickdeja (Mick Whelan)
Gavin wrote:
we plan on doing a new section in the new year just for specimen fish though.we'll see how it goes.
Sounds interesting, tell us more Gav.
Mick.........
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22 Sep 2010 20:51 - 23 Sep 2010 00:08 #11
by derek (Derek Doyle)
3 to 6 years sounds about right for viable breeding. the females mature a bit earlier than males.
i got some 3 month old f1 kapamba zaire blues in mid 1995 and they produced young at christmas 99. so that was 4 and a half years. and that was also pulling out all the stops trying to get them to spawn as at that time they were very rare and expensive.
gavin is spot on re growth rates as it is very common to see stunted fronts from incorrect feeding and conditions.
young fronts to a year or so are quite easy and outgoing and feed greedily, but as they mature past 3 to 4 inches or so they become more wary and semi nocturnal. it is at this stage that growth can stall unless companions, feeding and water conditions are right.
actually checking back on dates it was christmas 98 that i first noticed the young freeswimming frontosa. ( christmas day itself) so that would put the age at about three and a half years old when first successfully spawned.
30 tanks specialise in african cichlids, angelfish and various catfish
Last edit: 23 Sep 2010 00:08 by
derek (Derek Doyle). Reason: additional information.and correction.
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