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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

J. marlieri parent guarding mixed fry in a trap!

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09 Feb 2011 11:20 #1 by Bella (Avril Lane)


A little video of a Julidochromis marlieri parent guarding a fry trap (fry retrieved from an external filter 4 weeks ago). The trap contains: 1 x J. marlieri, 1 x L. caeruleus, 1 x cherry shrimp and several snails.

What you don't see in the mobile phone video is a Frontosa and the other Juli parent making a hasty retreat when I turn on the tank lights. The trap is mostly guarded by a male juli, but both parents take turns or if the Frontosa swims up to the trap then the juli pair protect the trap together. They become aggresssive and shoo him away. This protection started last night when they noticed a Frontosa showing an interest in the trap, for the previous 4 weeks no fish ventured near the trap at all. I find this behaviour fascinating as I'm not sure these are the parents to this juli fry. There are 4 breeding pairs in the tank. The tank contains a mix of Malawais and Tanganyikans. I have a feeling the parents of the fry are in a cave on the other side of the tank close to the inlet. However, the pair whose nest is closest to the fry must think he belongs to them because of the proximity of the trap to their cave. I wonder if the trap was moved to the other side of the tank who would guard them then? (The trap is fixed to the side of the tank not floating freely). Anyway, enjoy I thought someone else besides myself might find the behaviour interesting too. :)

Killenard, Laois

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09 Feb 2011 12:46 - 09 Feb 2011 12:49 #2 by Dub (Glen Coughlan)
Nice video.........well done ;)
Regards Glen.........

Frontosa Crazy..............
Last edit: 09 Feb 2011 12:49 by Dub (Glen Coughlan).

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09 Feb 2011 17:50 #3 by derek (Derek Doyle)
bella, all julies have extremely strong parental urges and it is not unusual to have them adopt other species fry never mind the same species. i have seen several instances of this including a pair of marlieri who adopted a load of miniscule guarami fry (which had been placed in their tank as food) and they protected them and raised them (till removed at an inch or so) alongside their own generations of fry.
also julies in general (even v. large ones) are not really predators of fish and prefer tiny shrimpy type food as in nature. i have kept them with breeding groups of leptosoma and shell dwellers etc. and never knew them to snatch a single fry.
julies are adaptable and hardy and good community fish and only ever seem to quarrel with their own kind if at all.

30 tanks specialise in african cichlids, angelfish and various catfish

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09 Feb 2011 17:59 #4 by Frontosa (Tim kruger)
Well done.Nice video.See you tonite.Regards,Tim

Midlands - in the heart of Ireland.

Keeping and breeding : Frontosa Blue Zaires , Synodontis Petricola , Tropheus Red Rainbow (Kasanga) , Tropheus Moliro . Regulary fry for sale.
Community tank with P.Kribensis and different livebearers.

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09 Feb 2011 19:48 #5 by andrewo (andrew)
Such nice paternal instinct

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10 Feb 2011 12:30 #6 by Bella (Avril Lane)
Thank you everyone. Derek that's so interesting and so cute. This is the part of fishkeeping that never ceases to amaze me. There's always some little surprise when we look into our tanks. When the battle began to pair off, with this group of 9 julis, the fighting was fierce at times, to the extent one male had the side of his mouth up to his eye and back to his gills ripped off. He healed up but his markings are only starting to appear there again now and this is months later and needless to say he is still a bachelor in the tank.

Killenard, Laois

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10 Feb 2011 13:14 #7 by Tom (Tom Brecknell)
Thanks Bella for sharing, love the Video, ain't life great....................................Tom.

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