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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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16 Oct 2012 18:23 #1 by jimmy L (James Lynch)
hi there just wondering if there is anyone breeding wild discus?

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16 Oct 2012 19:32 #2 by serious3 (vince)
seahorse aquariums had some beautiful wild caught last week if that helps?

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16 Oct 2012 20:58 #3 by BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
There has being a few lads over the last few months but up photos off there tanks with wild discus but not sure if breeding them do a search there mate and see if anything comes up

If i notice them ill post them here for you

Sean

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16 Oct 2012 21:03 #4 by arabu1973 (. .)
Long story short, i did it until recently but not anymore, not worth the effort....

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16 Oct 2012 21:30 #5 by BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
Adrian would you know anyone still breeding them that you could put James on to?

Sean

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16 Oct 2012 21:35 #6 by arabu1973 (. .)
Sorry Sean but i dont know anybody else doing it, like i said its just not worth it.

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16 Oct 2012 21:36 #7 by BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
No worries mate worth a shot

Thanks

Sean

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16 Oct 2012 22:02 #8 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
I downed tools on this years ago.

Whilst worth it to have captive superb specimens, the effort and time put in to raise a load of young that nobody really wanted (as so many were more interested in 'glitzy' coloured mutants at the time) made it not viable.

Is there any particular morphotype or species that you are looking for?

ian

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16 Oct 2012 22:38 #9 by jimmy L (James Lynch)
Hi all ,

just thought id ask as the price of them from any of the shops is high
and it would be great to get f1 tank breed vs wild's, i just think wild discus are stunning compared to captive breeds
the ones im mainly after are brown alenquer,tefe, Red spotted greens etc. i have seen the ones in seahorse very nice fish indeed.
how many of you are keeping wilds and what type?
thanks for all the replys,
james.

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16 Oct 2012 23:03 #10 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
The prices on discus are, in general, unjustifiably high.

In being argumentative, all of the reasons for the very high prices simply do not wash in my opinion.
"Rarity" (that's a bit of duff excuse), Transport Costs, Difficulty in Keeping etc etc are poor excuses when we consider other wild (or captive bred) fish of similar size and transport difficulty (and some even "rarer").

But that is life.....as it is, and as it has been for years.

On the other hand, I have seen wild discus in LFS (nice quality ones) at a fair size at about 50 euro in the past year.
My Wild Greens cost me 30 euro a pop a few years....that is really a little high for a fish, but not bad in comparison.

Even the captive bred specimens are over-priced (and many are odd shaped muts).

When I bred wild discus, if I wanted to charge a premium price then I could have and thus help perpetuate some same-old nonsense on why they need to be so expensive.

Unfortunately, though, that has not really answered the original question....but I can see exactly why someone would like to secure good quality F1 wilds (especially if at a reasonable price for a fish).

ian

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17 Oct 2012 08:44 #11 by jimmy L (James Lynch)
I totally agree with you ian, would love to see a picture of your fish and setup if possible?

The other thing is that i can order them in myself for about the same price you got your's but i'm unsure what quailty these fish will be or what state the will be in and would love to have the pick of them myself just because i'm very fussy about my fish ;)

james.

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25 Nov 2012 12:37 #12 by nobleKozi (Maksymilian poltorak)
[quote="jimmy L" i'm very fussy about my fish ;)

james.[/quote]

Oh yes you are fussy.

maks

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25 Nov 2012 15:24 #13 by davey_c (dave clarke)
not realy a discus person myself but i must admit wilds are so much nicer than the regular hideous captive bred variants.
i'd say you might be able to get them in from germany or similar places that breed decent quality discus but will have to consult 1 of the sponsors to discus your chances of getting f1's!!

Below tank is for sale

my plywood tank build.

www.irishfishkeepers.com/index.php/forum...k-build-diary#137768

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