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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

scleromystax sp. c112 the keeping and spawning

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09 Feb 2011 21:19 - 09 Feb 2011 21:20 #1 by derek (Derek Doyle)
daragh owens got these fish for me from a british breeder about 2 years ago. unlike the related barbatus they were easy to keep and grew well on basic tablet and wormy food. as with other sclero. species they are larger than corys and have a streamlined shape. they spawned when still quite young and i removed the eggs from main tank and placed in container but hatch rates were poor. the next time i put the eggs in a crystal shrimp tank and the hatch rate was a little better. each time a few (6 to 10?)very hardy fry were raised. they spawned again about a month ago and this time i decided to remove the adults to a different tank and leave the eggs to hatch in situ. so now i have about 30 fast growing and healthy young eating a mixture of hatched brineshrimp and tabimin. there are a dozen or so cherry shrimp with them to help with cleaning.
unlike corydoras but as with scl. barbatus they are not voracious in eating their own fry.



adult male with females and juvenile.



4 week old fry.

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09 Feb 2011 21:42 #2 by Ieva star (Ieva Fogta)
Would they be like corys water wise Derek nice fish Johney

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09 Feb 2011 22:06 #3 by derek (Derek Doyle)
johnny, they are very similar to corys but get a bit bigger and are faster swimmers. need bigger tank.

this is a video of fry taken last week. hope it works

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09 Feb 2011 22:15 - 09 Feb 2011 22:16 #4 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
super vid, beautiful looking fish, really like them, well done another breeding success

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09 Feb 2011 22:17 #5 by Ieva star (Ieva Fogta)
vid worked Derek fast is right they would do well in a large tank i like them

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09 Feb 2011 22:48 #6 by JohnH (John)

Would they be like corys water wise Derek nice fish Johney

I think the Scleromystax prefer a cooler water temperature - low 70s?

John

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09 Feb 2011 23:17 #7 by derek (Derek Doyle)

Would they be like corys water wise Derek nice fish Johney

I think the Scleromystax prefer a cooler water temperature - low 70s?

John


hi john, although i would agree that scleromystax esp. barbatus require low temp. and very high oxygen levels. this c112 type seem to thrive at any temp. at the moment the adults are housed with a breeding group of l66 at above 80f and they are fine although filtration and oxygen levels are at peak. since i began keeping this species i have not lost a single fish adult or young, which is amazing when compared to barbatus. also unlike most of this group there is very little inter male agression.

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10 Feb 2011 00:23 #8 by JohnH (John)
That's interesting Derek,
I have my three (one fatality unfortunately) in a 'bottom-row' tank to keep them at a lower temperature - perhaps I'll move them up to a level at which I can (at least) see them.
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10 Feb 2011 00:28 #9 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
Nice write up Derek.

It seem remarkable that these will tolerate the higher temperatures compared to Barbatus.

I have a group of C. loxozonus i was thinking of getting rid of. Maybe these would be a good choice to replace them.
I will talk to you more about that at a later date.

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10 Feb 2011 00:40 - 10 Feb 2011 00:40 #10 by JohnH (John)
Darren,
If you do decide to part with the Loxozonus please can I have first refusal.
John

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10 Feb 2011 00:53 #11 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
No problem John. There are 11 F-0.

Just remind me next time you are coming a visiting.

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11 Feb 2011 16:45 #12 by Melander (Andreas Melander)
Very informative post.

Lovely fish, do they school like Corydoras or live in smaller groups/single individuals?

Melander

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11 Feb 2011 17:34 #13 by derek (Derek Doyle)
@melander. yes they school eat and behave much like any of the corys. just a bit bigger and faster.

@platy. these are lovely fish and would be well worth keeping. the loxozonus look nice and i would love a few if john is not too greedy in taking them all.:unsure:

other species i'd love to get is c113 and also adult barbatus.
i have some nice adolfi and robinae that i got from xeon in seahorse and i am currently conditioning these.

@johnh. i will have plenty of c112s soon if you want a few more for the group.

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11 Feb 2011 18:17 #14 by Acara (Dave Walters)
Interesting stuff Derek,enjoyed the thread.
I too would be keen on a few,but no rush,won't be ready 'til at least mid-summer.Wanted to get some from where these came,but couldn't get over to UK at the time.

always on the lookout for interesting corys.pm me if you know off any!

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13 Feb 2011 20:41 #15 by derek (Derek Doyle)
@acara, no problem dave. i suppose you'll be having the grand opening of the new fish house in the summer.:cheer:

@darren. in the distant past before the c and l number ids, there were two barbatus strains, (now probably dif. species) according to available info at that time one was from around sao paulo and one from near rio. they were both cool water types and hard enough to keep alive for any lenght of time,probably due to insuffient oxygen. the above brazilian regions are quite southerly (towards argentina) and can get a lot cooler. these two species? grow larger and are more aggressive among the males than most of the newly available scleromystax species such as c 112 and 113.
one of these barbatus types had really handsome rich colour and pattern on the males, including a thick golden head stripe.

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13 Feb 2011 21:01 #16 by wolfsburg (wolfsburg)
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Lovely Derek, informative post. Did they come from Ian Fuller?

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13 Feb 2011 21:27 #17 by derek (Derek Doyle)
@wolfsberg, probably was ian fuller, though i'll have to check with daragh (if he ever graces us with his presence again:laugh: )as he got fish from a few sources on that trip.

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13 Feb 2011 22:59 #18 by Acara (Dave Walters)
Derek,thanks very much,any excuse to get to visit. And,yes,finally the long talked about shed will be done.

Wolfsberg,I may be wrong,but those did not come from Ian,but another bloke on Corydoras World,who is also got a great thread going at the moment with lots of pics of his new fish shed being constructed from scratch.

always on the lookout for interesting corys.pm me if you know off any!

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13 Feb 2011 23:04 #19 by wolfsburg (wolfsburg)
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Thanks Dave! I must have a look. I've never actually been on the website. I met Ian a while back when I was over in Prestwood Petzone with one of my colleagues and he said he knew Daragh, very nice man. His knowledge of C-numbers can only be described as freaky! :laugh:

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13 Feb 2011 23:20 #20 by Acara (Dave Walters)
He certainly knows his stuff,but the thing that's always amazed me about him,is the fact he keeps and breeds so many species in a 6x8ft shed.My shed is 6.5m x 3.5m or thereabouts,and I'm struggling to get the tanks in I want!!

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13 Feb 2011 23:37 #21 by wolfsburg (wolfsburg)
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AFAIR he had an decent-sized area in the back of the shop for breeding projects so don't be too down on yersel! :P

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