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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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25 Jun 2008 11:54 - 26 Jun 2008 11:48 #1 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Well Im getting to the stage where Im thinking of getting the 160litre up and running soon and Im gonna take the fish from my 90 litre into it. (1 male guppy,1 female guppy fry,2 male mollies,1 female molly,4 cardinal tetera,3 neon,3 bronze corys). Im thinking of adding another male guppy,perhaps and angel fish and was looking at possibilty of shrimps ?. Anyone have advise on shrimp ? Also will the angel be alright in a tank 160 litres,would 1 be enough ?

As for the 90 litre tank at that point Ill possibly get alot of tiger barbs and some corys.
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26 Jun 2008 11:50 #2 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Anyone able to help me out on this one ?

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26 Jun 2008 12:40 #3 by 2poc (2poc)
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Hi,

160 litre should be fine for an Angel once it is a tall tank (18 inch plus).
They grow to be very deep bodied fish so need the headroom.

re: Shrimp, they are a great addition to the tank & the choice depends on what you want to pay and on your water.

Ghost shrimp are your run of the mill see thru shrimp with no color, get to about 2 inches in size. Not much to look at but lots of character.
Relatively cheap & hardy too.

Amano shrimp, smaller & nicer looking than ghost shrimp. Similar in colour but with a bit more colour on the back. Generally about a fiver each. Hardy as well

There are lots of other options but they are generally less hardy, less available & more expensive. Crystal red, orange, bumblebee etc. are available from time to time. Like the amano shrimp stay small but they have great colours. Be prepared to dig deep though at 8 or 9 quid for crystal reds.

I've also seen some unusual large shrimp in Aquatic village that are like small lobsters.

Best of luck,
Patrick.

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26 Jun 2008 12:50 #4 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Patrick thanks a million for that. Im not overly worried about shelling out a tenner on a shrimp as the rest of the fish are relatively cheap and also given that a pint is €4.50,these last longer and dont give me a headache! Id love to get some bumbleebee shrimp but being based in Cork Im very limited to certain shops so Aquatic Village is too far away although Im gonna try and get a visit in there next time Im up in the City.
Would the shrimp and corys survive together fine on the bottom? Also would I need alot of plants etc as I dont have any plans on adding too many plants as such.

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26 Jun 2008 13:04 #5 by pkearney (Phil Kearney)
if you put angels in with guppies they will eat
the fry. you would have to put the gravid females
in breeding traps.
phil.

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26 Jun 2008 16:17 #6 by 2poc (2poc)
Replied by 2poc (2poc) on topic Re:Shrimp & angels.
A pint ain't not 4.50 around here - I paid 5.40 a pint at the weekend ;)

I've not had any problems mixing shrimps & corys and plants are not a necessity though they are generally likely places for the shrimp to hang out..

The only thing with the smaller more expensive ones is that they can be hard to find/see in the tank..

I paid 9 quid each for two half inch long crystal reds & see them once in a blue moon - this is in a 50 litre tank!

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26 Jun 2008 22:24 #7 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Okay if I was to avoid the Angel fish and possibly get a Ram Cichlid instead, is this ideal for community tank or not ?

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27 Jun 2008 12:55 #8 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Anyone had Rams in a community tank ? Also heard they would eat the shrimp?

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27 Jun 2008 14:15 #9 by pkearney (Phil Kearney)
rams are not really suitable for community tank
as they require soft acid water. most cichlids
will eat baby guppies.you could try kribensis
and put plenty of floating plants as hiding places.
phil.

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27 Jun 2008 18:29 #10 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
The kribensis would be a better option to an angel, but I think there would be a good chance of them eating the smaller shrimps CRS, Cherry, Tiger, Bee etc. The Ammano might be big enough to be safe.

I would definitely recomend a few plants for the shrimp (of any type), they like to have something to hang on to and climb. They also spend most of there time nibbling on microscopy bits of algae and debris on the plants.

Use a fine substrate for the corys, like playsand or at least smooth rounded gravel - nothing with sharp edges.

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30 Jun 2008 21:01 #11 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Well finding getting shrimp v difficult down here in Cork, Im hoping to get 2 tomorrow in the City if I can get there after work. Im cautious about introducing new fish to my tank as I dont want to upset the balance of the tank at present but I think 2 shrimp would be nice too and would also work on some of the algae on the rocks albeit a small amount only.(yes Im aware they would be better in groups but I dont want to have too many of them). Also am I correct in saying these shrimp arent going to start reproducing to beat the band. ie.they may have eggs but they wont hatch right? Would my existing mollies eat them I presume? (The last thing I want is a population boom,would 1 shrimp be better ?)
Gavin

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30 Jun 2008 21:19 #12 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
I don't think you need to worry about a population explosion. If they are Amano shrimp you have nothing to worry about at all, they can not breed in freshwater, the young shrimp must go thru a period in saltwater to develop.

CRS (Crystal Red Shrimp) Zebras (a form of CRS) Chrry shrimp or tiger shrimp can and do breed in freshwater, but not that readily that you will have a problem. Anyway they are so small that 30 or 40 shrimp would hardly add any load to your tank!

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30 Jun 2008 21:31 #13 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Darragh thanks a million, I think the amano shrimp survive for a week before the need for salt occurs so Ill safe from any population explosion as such. Just hope I can the shrimp tomorrow. Also Ive heard that some shrimp go for fry,is this true ? My fry are 2 months old now so they are safe Im guessing.

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30 Jun 2008 21:55 #14 by Daragh_Owens (Daragh Owens)
Not to my knowledge, but I guess they could. Teh Amanos will swim after and catch tetra prima that is floating down, so no reason they could not grab a fry. Maybe some one else has experience of that ???

I have about ten in a two foot tanks where corys have bred, they may have taken some fry, but not so that I would notice.

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01 Jul 2008 09:46 - 01 Jul 2008 11:02 #15 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
I must get some of that food at some stage.
Are my neon & cardinal tetra's safe from the shrimp ?
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01 Jul 2008 12:04 #16 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Well Ive finally managed to locate a place for the shrimp! Going to collect them after work this evening. Will introduce them tonight to the tank. I think they are ghost shrimp.
Anyone ever buy small frogs? I saw yellow/cream type frogs in the pet shop there also. Unusual looking guys.

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01 Jul 2008 12:32 #17 by serratus (Drew Latimer)
Prob. albino clawed frog, xenopus laevis, get to about 4\", fine with big community fish, big angels, gouramis etc, but will eat anything they can get into there mouths!!!! great escape artists too!!

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01 Jul 2008 12:52 #18 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Yeah my tetras and molly fry would be breakfast,lunch & dinner for these guys I reckon. I think they were dwarf Africian frogs. I'll steer clear of them I think!

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