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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

arowana in my juwul 180

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03 Jul 2008 18:19 #1 by iceman68 (paul dooley)
do you thingit would be ok to start young arowana of in a juwel 180 and if so for how long

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04 Jul 2008 00:36 #2 by serratus (Drew Latimer)
OK!!!!!!!!! you were asking questions about puffers??? now arowana???????? where do you live???????? you need to to sort out what you want to keep!!!!!!!!!I am the manager of Aquatic Village,01 4582522, or even call up to us!!!!!! we will advise in EVERY ASPECT OF FISHKEEPING you wanna know!!!!

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06 Jul 2008 01:48 #3 by Gavin (Gavin)
here's the the thing..not long and why? those fish get megga big.did the shop you bought it from not inform you at the point of purchase...no point in buying a tank buster unless you have the space longtime.people buying fish for a 180 and asking how long it is gonna spend in that kinda environvment to be honest are the kinda person who should not buy those kind of fish inb the first place.if you have to ask...imho..then you need to think about why you keep fish in the first place.too many places selling tank busteres to people without thinking about the concequences.a 180 litre t ank,it is rediculous no matter what.those fish grow really quick and it is doubtfull you will ever be able to care for it unless you are a public aquarium.end of.

dont make me come over there.

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06 Jul 2008 01:51 #4 by Gavin (Gavin)
by the way visit drew and he will sort out out your head from the other parts of you nothern anatomy.he's a fishy genius.

dont make me come over there.

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06 Jul 2008 08:22 #5 by Valerie (Valerie)
Replied by Valerie (Valerie) on topic Re:arowana in my juwul 180
Hi Gavin,

Welcome back :-)

Unless I am mistaken, Iceman68 was wondering about getting an arowana but doesn't own one yet ... Maybe he is looking at various ideas to stock his 180l tank.
I would definitely advise smaller fish critters, a Rio180 is not that big! :-)

Valerie

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06 Jul 2008 11:40 #6 by mickeywallace (Michael Wallace Cath Woods)
I would agree with Valerie on this. i would also be the first to admit you will get a lot of bad advice on what you can and can't keep in north east.

but a valid questiion was asked how long does it take for arowana to reach the max size it is a question that should be asked about a lot of fish. and i am sure Gavin( nice to see you :laugh::woohoo: :laugh:)and serratus would agree this the type of question people should ask when considering purchasing any fish.

Mickey Wallace & Cath Woods

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06 Jul 2008 18:26 #7 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
Good to see people asking before buying, hey we've all had at least one stupid impulse buy, but arowana and a 180 no no no they can grow up to 39\"!!!! you'd want a blooming huge tank to keep it in any comfort
Seamus

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06 Jul 2008 21:47 #8 by iceman68 (paul dooley)
good thing i didnt buy them it was only a suggestion for an unusual fish i knew i would have to be upgrade eventually to a bigger tank dont think ill ask any more questions on this site with people like gavin about

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06 Jul 2008 21:54 - 06 Jul 2008 22:33 #9 by CJackson (Frank Farrell)
Don't be like that iceman. You got some really good advice, and even Gavin was telling you the right thing, in his own way ; ) Remember, there are no stupid questions. Don't leave because you got good advice from people who know what they are talking about. This site is a great place, a good source of info with a nice friendly open community.
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07 Jul 2008 00:46 #10 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
Iceman, please dont take Gavin the wrong way, he's passionate about fishkeeping like the rest of us here, but like most of us we hate seeing new fishkeepers being duped into buying something completely wrong for their setup, there are unscrupulous shops out there that will do this ( but not anyone here), it's great to see someone new using their heads and this site to find out about fish before buying, you are to be congratulated on that point, we're not a nasty group here and all of us need help and advice from time to time, so stay and find out for yourself... remember you've done the right thing by asking first, buying later and although Gavin was giving you good advice although in weird and wonderfully colourful way, we all stick together here and help each other... hope to hear from you soon
Seamus

Fishkeeping the Only way to get wet and wild

currently 25 tanks, and breeding is the aim of everything i keep
location:Limerick

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07 Jul 2008 08:15 - 07 Jul 2008 08:18 #11 by BJHillson (Brett Hillson)
Some times its very hard to understand actualy how big some fish can grow to be untill you actualy see a LARGE one of its kind, most fishkeepers tend to only see the babies when they visit there LFS, I have seen a large arowana (must of been nearly 2 foot) at Maidenhead aquatics they had a huge display tank the size of a Ford fiesta (in Lenght width and height) in there they had 2 Arowana and a couple of small stingrays and some other fish. Even in a tank this size they still looked like they needed a bigger tank. Some fish just belong in there natural home or in a public aquarium where they can have room for them.

I hope you continue to use these boards, I have only been on here for a few weeks and it is very helpfull.
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08 Jul 2008 17:15 #12 by koinonia (koinonia)
didnt someone not long ago put up a link of someones aquarium in his basement ;)

nice to see you back gavin...missed your friendly advice ..and great deals in the place we cannot now name :P

can we go anywere now to get the same from you?:)

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01 Aug 2008 12:49 #13 by Ian (Anthony Ramirez)
I actually managed to take care of a 33in silver arowana which is now 12 years old in a small 100gallon aquarium. I still have it by itself - no tankmates. It used to have a spotted gar, oscar, clown loaches when it was smaller but it got aggressive towards them - so i decided to keep it by itself. The proper way to get the biggest tank you can afford to the space you have. As a bare minimum you should have a 52in long and 36 wide tank. Thats an irregular sized tank! That is if you like your arowana to grow to 36in.

Fishkeeping CV: Co-founded, 1st President of the only surviving Fishkeeping Club (Accredited by Dept. of Fisheries) in the Philippines (mypalhs.com). I have mostly reared tropicals - Arowanas and monster fishes. My oldest arowana is 13years old (died in a tropical storm). Ive since reared a Black,...

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01 Aug 2008 13:19 #14 by adamireland (Adam Jackson)
Im just going to put something out there, that people might not agree with... iceman has come on asking questions about arowanna (a great thing to ask first!) he also asked how long he could keep it in there.. showing awareness that this fish is going to get big.

IMO Iceman hasnt done anything wrong here.. now if Iceman were to ask me the question. I would be asking if he plans on upgrading in the near future? what he hopes to keep in the long term? has he thought the whole process through.?
Many fish keepers i know expand their fish rooms organically rather than a once off purchase. How many people can start a 500 gallon fish room straight off?


if iceman has the funds planned for the future and plans his purchase from the start there is no reason IMO why he cant have a baby arowana in his 180. once he feels confident that he has made the right choice, then look around for the next stage in development. by this time he will have plenty of time to understand what is required if him and what size he is going to need to see the fish through its life..

just my 2 cent..

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