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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

African Butterfly Fish tankmates

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08 Feb 2011 09:05 #1 by gunnered72 (Eddy Gunnered)
Do yas think that an african butterfly fishes fins will be too tempting for a school of say 20 tiger barbs.Also can african butterfly fish be kept singly or do they need to be in a school.

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08 Feb 2011 10:39 #2 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
African Butterfly fish could be sitting targets for aggressive or fin-nipping fish.
They don’t normally take to being harassed. So I personally wouldn’t keep tiger barbs with them.

Also, small fish at the top of the water will be seen as food by the butterfly.

These can be kept as a group or on their own. I’ve never had a problem with either way.

Ian

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08 Feb 2011 11:57 - 08 Feb 2011 11:57 #3 by dar (darren curry)
i was worried about putting one with odessa barbs, a lesser agressive of the barbs but yet can be a bit nippy. i'd avoid tigers, the african butterfly has a fair bit of finage to be nipped plus they are jumpers and could leap and hit the roof and injure themselves trying to evade attack

p.s hello people

Check out the angling section, it is fantastic
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08 Feb 2011 12:01 #4 by JohnH (John)
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Hello Dar,
We've missed you.
Welcome back.

John

Location:
N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


ITFS member.



It's a long way to Tipperary.

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08 Feb 2011 12:02 #5 by joey (joe watson)
jaysus dar where you been?? dont worry we didn't miss ya :P

as for butterfly's, do not get them if you have any barbs or nippy tetra they could get ravaged by them its not worth the risk.

are you looking for something for the surface in general or you already have the butterfly fish and want something to go with it?

Location: Portlaoise, Midlands

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08 Feb 2011 12:42 #6 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Butterfly fish are such superb fish and a great alternative to having an arowana (a smaller version in some respects) that they are worth having a special set-up where they are the central focus.

You get a lot of a very exotic primitive fish for, what (?), 6 to 15 euro (depending on shop) a piece.

They are superb jumpers…..and if you manage to get them to eat flake food they attack it like a living prey item (and often give a leap out of the water).
There is a true un-tamed behaviour in these fish that I love.

Even things like polypterus, arowanas, and lungfish (and other primitives) eventually become ‘captive pets’…but I’ve never known any of mine to behave other than as an untamed animal.
Are they worth splashing out on a special tank for them? Yes. Defo.

ian

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08 Feb 2011 13:26 #7 by gunnered72 (Eddy Gunnered)
Thank fellas...........im seetin up a new tank and this is my fish list

Red tail shark
School of tiger barbs
School of ottos

Was lookin to add a surface dweller(s) with this combo

180 litre heavily planted is my aim

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08 Feb 2011 13:42 #8 by joey (joe watson)
hatchets would be the best bet for something like that, or danios like the under-rated pearl danio (very beautiful under good lights) tend to hang around the top half and more than able to outrun the tigers

as for otto's with a red tailed shark i'd be wary that the red tailed shark can be very aggressive to their own and other bottom dwellers - a rainbow shark is similar in looks but not so notorious for aggression (mine was chasing a flying fox no and then, but all others were ignored)
saying that, ottos hide during the day so you might be alright. i'm getting SAE's and will have otto's with the rainbow shark so will let you know how they get along

Location: Portlaoise, Midlands

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08 Feb 2011 22:46 #9 by houseofmil (Martin Bromell)
i agree with joey rainbow shark best bet with that mix i have one he sometimes goes for otttos and flying fox if they come into his domain but other that that he leaves everything alone. Had a red tailed shark he didn't like the ottos i had 4 flying foxs at time but it killed 2 so exchanged it for rainbow shark can get some big enough ones

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