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Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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26 Jul 2011 13:02 #1
by PompeyBill (Killian Walshe)
So I somehow managed to convince my boss that we needed a fish tank in the department and he agreed (he's an ex-fishkeeper) so we just took delivery if a new Marina Style 160L aquarium. He wants a planted tank. Now I have some java fern and anubias in my existing tank but this will be my first try at a proper planted tank. Really looking forward to the challenge. I think I am going to get some reflectors for the T8 bulbs that are in it and some good fertiliser substrate to go under the gravel.
Any suggestions as to what plants, fish etc would be welcomed, I'm not sure what way we are going to go with this but it should be fun! Just thought I'd share!
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26 Jul 2011 13:09 #2
by JohnH (John)
Bill,
That's a clever move on your behalf.
How about an illustrated account of the setting-up?
I'm sure there are many who are better able than myself to advise you on plants - unless you want help on how to eradicate them...then I'm your man!!!
John
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We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.
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It's a long way to Tipperary.
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02 Aug 2011 12:53 #3
by PompeyBill (Killian Walshe)
Well John was going to try to get a step by step picture of setting it up but my boss decided to come in and set it up over the weekend (he is very enthusiastic about it all, its great)!!
Now for a question. I was going to take one of the sponges out my existing filter at home and give it a squeeze into the work tank to establish the bacteria. If I do this is it ready for fish straight away or do I do the usual tests or whats the story? The non-fishy types in the department are getting restless, and won't listen to the 'cycle' speech. Having said that though, going on what they say we will have piranha, angel fish, gold fish, electric eels and an octupus in there so not paying too much attention to them!!
Will get a picture of it up when the fish are in there.
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02 Aug 2011 13:10 #4
by JohnH (John)
Really adding 'stuff' from your existing filter will at best speed up the cycling process although - for your impatient workmates you could add a small amount - say a half-dozen - hardy fish like Platies or Neon Tetras which would actually help the process on its way as well, but really no more than this to start off with. Also it should be added that the exchange be done quickly as bacteria (particularly the oxygen-loving ones) will start to die off fairly quickly out of their environment...cue IGM for better words of wisdom.
You could start the planting off, remembering to remove all dead and dying leaves, in the meantime.
You really should follow the cycling through though, for safety's sake.
A point which cannot, in the work environment, be stressed enough is that only one person be designated to be the 'official fish-feeder'.
I have seen - all too often - too many 'unofficial' people feeding the fish and uneaten food leads to, as you will know, potential disaster!
After all these words of 'doom and gloom' I will add that I hope and expect none of that will happen. Good luck with the project.
John
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We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.
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It's a long way to Tipperary.
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09 Aug 2011 13:08 #5
by PompeyBill (Killian Walshe)
Just another quick question lads. One of the guys in here wants to go to his LFS and have a look around. He is going to run what he is thinking of getting by me first but we are struggling to think of how he could get it in here. The issue is that he doesn't live close to work. He would be going into the shop in the evening and the only time he could bring them in is the next morning. I assume that they would not be able to last this long in their bag of water or is that wrong? Is there anything he could do? Myself and the boss kind of wanted to let everyone get something for the tank as long as it was compatible.
Thanks for all the replies by they way John, we have it up and running, will post some pics soon!
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09 Aug 2011 14:37 - 09 Aug 2011 14:40 #6
by ceech (Desmond Gaynor)
To be honest unless they were put in a holding tank overnight that may work , i would not advise to leave the fish in the bags ,maybe if you had heat packs but still not a good idea i think they need air and a bag will eventually run out of air and the temp and most worrying the ammonia from them !!!
why dont ya make a team building exercise out of it and head away to the local pet store for a few hours some morning and involve everyone
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10 Aug 2011 11:46 #7
by PompeyBill (Killian Walshe)
To be honest unless they were put in a holding tank overnight that may work , i would not advise to leave the fish in the bags ,maybe if you had heat packs but still not a good idea i think they need air and a bag will eventually run out of air and the temp and most worrying the ammonia from them !!!
why dont ya make a team building exercise out of it and head away to the local pet store for a few hours some morning and involve everyone
Yeah thought as much ceech, the stress from being in there for so long and the ammonia stress would probably be too much, said I would ask in case I missed anything obvious!
We are an IT help desk so all going away from out for a while is not really an option. Ah sure we figure something out! Thanks for the help
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10 Aug 2011 13:08 #8
by Pat_K (Patrick King)
I'd imagine an IT crowd might enjoy a group order online. I know that Seahorse Aquariums do delivery for a pretty good rate, but other sponsors probably do as well. Sounds like fun
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11 Aug 2011 14:26 #9
by Jambomac (James McConville)
If everybody brings in what they want it could potential disaster what if everybody brings in every fish on the same day?
You need organisation and i take it thats down to get everybody to go onto certain fish profile website as i take it you have access to computers being I.T. and you can advise that x fish won't go with y fish or will eat the plants and therefore everybody can pool there money towards fish decided and other people won't be buying more expensive fish than others.
Good Luck it will be some bonding experiment as everybody has there own prefered fish some cichlids which some are great in communities and some are terretorial.
There's so many variety's of fish you need to be a bit more organised, although you are to a degree i'm sure some in the I.T. are like giddy little kids and could come in with a catfish or something that could wipe out any fish.
“A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer.”
quote Bruce Lee
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11 Aug 2011 14:43 - 11 Aug 2011 14:45 #10
by ceech (Desmond Gaynor)
Maybe the soloution is that you all make a list of proposed fish that people want.
Then you can check the list and see what is compatible.
Then you organise to bring the fish on different days and let the staff help put them in the tank.That way all are envovlved some way but you get to keep control on what goes into the tank and also that too many fish are not added to fast.'Look forward to see the tank
one important thing i think that needs to be decided is the type of fish in other words are you going to have cichlid tank or a tank of tetras ect.This way you wont end up with a so called show tank with a huge amount of incompatable fish
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12 Aug 2011 11:55 #11
by PompeyBill (Killian Walshe)
Thanks for the replies guys. Na not letting everyone just bring in whatever they want. We have been taking trips at lunch time out to different shops, with me telling them 'No, you can't get the huge colourful one, it won't fit!!'. Just one of the guys was wondering could he go to his local shop and bring something in the next day, he would have run what he was thinking of by me before getting it - it just got me thinking if it was possible.
Well my boss is taking this very seriously. The tank came with 2 HOB filters which I am thinking aren't great. He went ahead and bought an internal filter, and Interpret I think, and now has both another, the Fluval U2. I think it may be the most filtered tank I have seen!! Lol. He also went ahead and bought a CO2 kit for the plants. What started off with a mild suggestion from me for small tank with possible a few guppies has really taken off. Loving it!!
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12 Aug 2011 12:20 #12
by derek (Derek Doyle)
Just one of the guys was wondering could he go to his local shop and bring something in the next day, he would have run what he was thinking of by me before getting it - it just got me thinking if it was possible.
it is possible to do what your friend wishes. if he explains to the shop staff (good shop only) what his intention is, they can pack the fish in such a way that will allow the fish to survive easily. enough oxygen and heat stability is required.
fish are moved around the world this way and would often be in bags for 24 hours or more.
30 tanks specialise in african cichlids, angelfish and various catfish
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14 Aug 2011 11:59 #13
by JustinK (Justin Kelly)
It sounds like you might have to ask the boss if you can get a staff tank too
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