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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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05 Oct 2011 11:48 #1 by fishhead88 (Aaron)
Hey i no this is a rookie question but i need to ask it. i just got some bog wood but it wont stay at the bottom of the tank. Any house hold things i could use to keep it down that wont harm my fish or whats the best thing to use. cheers for the help

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05 Oct 2011 12:01 - 05 Oct 2011 12:04 #2 by stretnik (stretnik)
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05 Oct 2011 12:09 #3 by fishhead88 (Aaron)
Cheers kev just need to not drill my hand :-)

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05 Oct 2011 13:09 #4 by dyco619 (steve carmody)
how big is the bogwood? if its not to big you could just put a rock on it.

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05 Oct 2011 13:19 #5 by pkearney (Phil Kearney)
Real bog oak will not float. To make the wood sink put some rocks on it for a time and it will become waterlogged in time.
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05 Oct 2011 13:27 #6 by stretnik (stretnik)
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The only problems with Rocks is that if you underestimate the buoyancy of the Wood it can throw the Rock and you can end up with irreparable scratches or worse a cracked Aquarium.

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05 Oct 2011 13:54 #7 by ger310 (Ger .)
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I read a thread on here not so long ago but i cant seem to find it now about microwaving the bogwood after soaking and apparently it sinks right to the bottom?? Did anyone read this or was i dreaming? and if i wasn't dreaming,does anyone know if it works?? Sounds a bit crazy!!!!

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05 Oct 2011 15:33 #8 by BillG (Bill Gray)
I saw the comments about putting the drift wood / bog wood in a microwave too after soaking it. To be honest, I would not advise putting any wood in a microwave unless you are certain it has almost no moisture content. Heating with microwave radiation will quickly turn any moisture in the wood to steam and can make the wood explode.
I think perhaps on harm to microwave the wood briefly before soaking as a means of sterilising it, would certainly kill and biological contaminants on the wood. Most people simply osak the wood for a period of several weeks until it getss waterlogged and sinks naturally. A lot of people recommned boiling the wood several times too before use, also kills biological contaminants and has the added advantage of removing a lot of tannins from the wood.

Think the video link posted by Kev shows about the best option to sink the wood if you do not want to take the time to soak it first. Would advise cation on the kind of screws you use to attach the suction cups to the wood as they could corrode and add dangerous contaminants to the tank water. would recomend using either stainless steel or bronze screws intended for boatbuilding use, available from plenty of sources on e-bay and gaurenteed not to corrode even in salt water.

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05 Oct 2011 15:53 #9 by fishhead88 (Aaron)
Cheers lads ill keep an open mind ill leave it soaking until i figure something out thanks for the advice

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05 Oct 2011 17:39 #10 by stretnik (stretnik)
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I am the one who Microwaved it, it was moorwood therefore not as dense as Mopani etc, small bits only and there were no explosions or any untoward activity, I would suggest however, the wood is left in situ till it has cooled but as I said, i would only suggest doing something that I have tried myself.

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06 Oct 2011 08:30 #11 by BillG (Bill Gray)
Hi Kev,

I guess I should have qualified my statement about the risk of explosion when micro-waving the wood. It is ont only dependant on the moisture content of the wood, but is also dependant on how long it is micro-waved for. If it’s not overcooked, there is no significant risk. Did you use the microwave to sterilise the wood? or was it intended to help it sink? I know would not take long in a microwave to kill any pathogens on or below the wood surface.

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06 Oct 2011 09:53 #12 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
I nuked a bit of root wood this morning and walla it sank to the bottom.


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06 Oct 2011 11:50 #13 by stretnik (stretnik)
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Great to hear !!

The reason I nuked it was because I hate the White Snotty substance that appears on it after a few days, I'd imagine it was a Fungus of some sort, I wanted/hoped it would kill off any spores etc that might be responsible for it, it was a happy accident that it caused it to sink, I'd imagine, like you, that the heat was causing the wood to expand and it caused voids in it to open , sucking in Water causing it to get heavy.

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06 Oct 2011 12:32 #14 by root (Stuart Hart)
How long did you nuke it for?

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06 Oct 2011 12:41 - 06 Oct 2011 12:42 #15 by stretnik (stretnik)
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2 mins, 3 max. But this was Moorewood, NOT "Bogwood" or Mopani.

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06 Oct 2011 13:33 #16 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
2 and a half minutes i did it for as far as i know the fungas stuff is sap thats still in the centre of the wood

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06 Oct 2011 14:06 #17 by stretnik (stretnik)
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That makes sense Craig.

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