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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

HELP! Added sand to tank...Now I've a milkshake!

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03 Dec 2011 00:47 #31 by Valerie (Valerie)
Replied by Valerie (Valerie) on topic Re: HELP! Added sand to tank...Now I've a milkshake!

Haha, I think I'm gone off sand for a while to be honest. I'll cap it with ordinary gravel. I'll give that a good wash though! As long as its nice and rounded and not sharp I should be ok with bottom dwellers like corys, right?

George

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It's all down to personal preference. Personally, I prefer pea gravel (though sand looks nice too). Not too sharp for bottom dwellers with bristles and less likely to scratch your aquarium glass when cleaning it with a magnet (or when visiting kids decide to play with the magnet ...). Easy enough to clean, rinse before 1st use and off you go.

My 2 cents :)

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03 Dec 2011 08:54 #32 by grgeorge (George Rahmani)

George, Sand is a great Substrate, it keeps all the crap on the surface, I use it in two of my Tanks and it's perfect, for Cory, Loach etc it's Heaven! I use Sand either from LFS, The Early Learning Centre or Aquatic Shops, NO OTHER SAND!!

Kev.


Hey Kev,

I've heard great things about sand, and it looks great in the tank but I'm a little put off it now. Like if you had a bad Chinese takeaway and you're put off all Chinese for a while... It was my own fault that I had a bad experience with it.

I've heard that you can get anaerobic pockets of gas building up in the sand that can get released from time to time which can harm the fish. Have you ever experienced anything like that?

George

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03 Dec 2011 09:30 #33 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: HELP! Added sand to tank...Now I've a milkshake!
It all depends on the depth you want to have and if you want to grow Plants, shallow sand won't support Plants.

Kev.

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03 Dec 2011 10:07 #34 by BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
i didnt clear uo thats mad mine was very bad also but was clear in a matter off a day or so again depends wat filter u have on it as the lads said sand is great lookin in a tank

if u dont want to go with samd again would u not try JBL Manado wat size tank is it for again the 25L bags off JBL Manado are i think only about 20 pound in and around there anyway

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03 Dec 2011 10:09 #35 by katie (Kathrin Guenther)
...... and that is a question that I have been thinking about for some time now too but cant come up with a solution for.
things I think I know:
#1 I would like some Corys for my 180 liter tank (if it ever cycles) and Corys like sand best.
#2 I want a planted tank and plants need deep substrate for sufficient root growth.
#3 Sand should be shallow or it will get those anaerobic pockets.
#4 You cant put sand over other substrate (in my case horticultural grit) as it falls through and creates a mess.
#5 You cant put it alongside grit as it will constantly mix and create a mess.

So how do you do it ? What is the secret to it ? Surely there is a way to have a fully planted tank and happy Corys ?

Hope I am not hijacking your thread George :blush:

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03 Dec 2011 11:19 - 03 Dec 2011 11:21 #36 by BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
katie there is lots a ways around it the thing is, it is how u want it to be as in you can have planted beds at the back with say ada,oliver knott,JBL Manado something good for planting and put like rocks around them and have the foreground as a sand bed that way it can be shollow and still have the sand look or you could cover the whole tank in the ada,oliver knott,JBL Manado and have it all planted as in hairgreass as a foreground plant or anything at all

i me myself dont like mixing gravel apart from if it is a aqua soil and say JBL Manado that is ok but sand on top off soil or even anything at all with sand will be a pain over time

i have a tank with just sand but no plants have look great also i have a full planted setup with the whole bottom off the tank cover with oliver knott and will be very heavly planted both i think looks really well and i have seen a few times a few tanks with wat i said as with the sand in front and the plant beds at back with the rock and that it will not only look very well but will stop sand and planted subsrate mixing

it is all about how u want it but anyway u do it just once u use rounded gravel that wont harm the corys they will love it

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03 Dec 2011 14:57 #37 by Andrew (Andrew Taaffe)
This might help

Check out this video on YouTube:



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03 Dec 2011 16:07 #38 by fishhead88 (Aaron)
thats a great tip andrew you really dont stop learning in this hobby

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03 Dec 2011 16:11 #39 by grgeorge (George Rahmani)

...... and that is a question that I have been thinking about for some time now too but cant come up with a solution for.
things I think I know:
#1 I would like some Corys for my 180 liter tank (if it ever cycles) and Corys like sand best.
#2 I want a planted tank and plants need deep substrate for sufficient root growth.
#3 Sand should be shallow or it will get those anaerobic pockets.
#4 You cant put sand over other substrate (in my case horticultural grit) as it falls through and creates a mess.
#5 You cant put it alongside grit as it will constantly mix and create a mess.

So how do you do it ? What is the secret to it ? Surely there is a way to have a fully planted tank and happy Corys ?

Hope I am not hijacking your thread George :blush:


Not at all Katie, I've been wondering that myself. I really want to get a gang of panda corys, they seem fantastic! But I really want to have a planted tank so I don't think I'd be able for sand personally. And while mixing gravel and sand in different areas is possible I reckon it'd eventually get messy for me so I'm gonna try keep it simple this time anyways (maybe for the next tank? ;) )I think my gravel is small and rounded enough so I might get 2 or 3 corys and if they get on ok I'll get them a few more buddies.

Cheers for the link Andrew, it looks like the whole process takes a while but definitely worth it to avoid the cloud!

George

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03 Dec 2011 17:21 #40 by ger310 (Ger .)
www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=is%20crys...jCvw1eKsKdYBpUPT6WcA

I personally went for the quartz gravel and my cory's have never looked happier!! Hope this helps!

Ger

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03 Dec 2011 17:43 #41 by christyg (Chris Geraghty)

This might help

Check out this video on YouTube:


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That is very impressive, thanks for sharing :cheer:

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