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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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27 Dec 2011 19:39 #31 by jeff (Jeff Scully)
i agree with valerie dont bother with melafix i personally think its crap id only use it on the fish that have broke or damaged fins for a booster, and for any sort of infection it eSHa all the way for me you will see results or even that its gone in 2 days and its not that expensive which is a bonus

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28 Dec 2011 22:02 #32 by Guppydave (Dave Ryan)
Thanks for the tips folks . I actually got something called 'easy life' . The patchy white stuff on 'frank'(angelfish) pretty much cleared up on its own . I'll get some of that eSHa stuff just to have on hand.
Other than that , things seem ok . I need to get my water checked at the lfs . The 'all in one strips' are a bit rubbish . I get very low nitrate/nitrite readings . This seems improbable at this stage of the cycle .

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29 Dec 2011 00:57 #33 by Guppydave (Dave Ryan)

Learning curve dave, if anything there should never be any "shouldnt have done that" posts, they achieve nothing, however solutions and remedies do, and we can learn :) I know I have my short time keeping fish and no doubt will make mistakes,


Indeed but I must admit I made some basic errors , especially when I put in 'new' wood and dodgy plants .I guess people can seem a bit harsh but they mean well.In this game ,a silly mistake can cost you a lot of time and effort.
Mistakes are part of the learning process ,we all make them for sure. I guess some 'teachers' can be more forgiving than others . These 'teachers' are the better ones , imo .

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30 Dec 2011 23:55 #34 by Guppydave (Dave Ryan)
So the inevitable happened .Frankie died . From the start the odds were against him . Obviously my uncycled tank had a part to play.I feel a little bad about that but at the end of the day , I didnt choose the circumstances of his arrival. It was just unfortunate timing by a well meaning friend.
I have two guppies in the tank for the last few days and they are doing fine as far as I can tell.
I put them in for both cycling and comparative purposes.
I figure if there was something drastically wrong with my water ,they would be dead or ill too.
People may think that is unethical but my guppy tank is a little crowded so thats why I moved them.
Also they never harrassed or 'nipped' the Angelfish.
Anyways Happy new year folks , will try to update with a decent photo soon .

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31 Dec 2011 00:52 #35 by ger310 (Ger .)
Alright Dave,first of all...sorry about 'frankie',its never nice to see a dead fish but hey,these things happen....as for Chris(draco),he is just very passionate about the hobby and knows his stuff but i can see were you would see it differently,but lads like him you should take heed of!!
If you can mate,can you tell us were you are at the minute ie.water readings?,what exactly is in the tank?,how long is the tank running?,what is your next step?....listen pal,this is the difficult part your going through now,get over these hurdles and your on the way to nothing but enjoyment!!

oh and Happy New Year to your self man!!

Ger

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31 Dec 2011 01:14 #36 by Guppydave (Dave Ryan)
Thanks for the encouraging words Ger . Of course I respect Draco. I think we just had a small misunderstanding about plants.Its all in the past .
The tank is a Rio 180 . Filled it three weeks ago. I am using 'squeezings' from an established guppy tank to get bacteria going. Ive got a lot of plants in there. Theyre looking ok . I have very hard water and a ph of 7.5.
My nitrites/nitrates are reading zero or very low . I think this is because Im using cheap '5in1' strips .
My original plan was to build up stocks slowly with tetras,corys,guppies and ottos to start . Then perhaps a suitable ciclid or two . I also have significant algae at the moment .

Dave

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01 Jan 2012 16:30 #37 by ger310 (Ger .)
Ah yeh,a Rio 180,i have an empty one meself and have to find a good spot in the house for it real soon!!
You seem to be on your way with the cycling(i assume you have tested for ammonia?) and get your self a test kit as them strips can be very unreliable,but i'm not saying test kits will give perfect readings,but i would trust its accuracy a hell of a lot more than the strips!!
I like your choice of fish and maybe a nice angel aswel to really kick it off but i'd be holding off on getting fish until you get your water parimeters sorted and hopefully the Guppies will live in the mean time!!
When you say significant algae,what exactly are you saying? Its on glass,stones,plants,everywhere? and could it be a light issue ie.direct sunlight?aquarium lights on too long?

Happy tackling

Ger

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03 Jan 2012 02:57 #38 by Guppydave (Dave Ryan)
I think I was leaving the lights on too long , for the plants . I've adjusted to approx 16 hours now .
I have yet to test for ammonia. I'll pick up a kit tommorow.

I'd like to try some fish in the next week or so , if conditions are right.
I'd like peoples views on numbers of fish .
As mentioned before I have a reasonable idea about the species I want but Im not sure about how many of each.
I'll probably go with 7-8 guppies (3 male)
Then 4-6 ottos then 4-6 corys .
Im wondering about tetras . I'd like two types in schools of 6-8 each.
Is it ok to have two varieties or should I go with one type and have a bigger school ?
I'd also like a ciclid or two at some stage.
Would that be ok or am I already overdoing it ?

Dave.

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03 Jan 2012 07:04 - 03 Jan 2012 08:27 #39 by skk123 (shaun)
i had the same problem when i started reduce the light and it should go away,your lights are on way too much.start with 6 then every week increase by one hour til max 10 hours.as for stocking take your time read up on all the fish you are thinking of getting and see if there compatible
good luck
Shaun
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04 Jan 2012 02:55 - 04 Jan 2012 03:04 #40 by Guppydave (Dave Ryan)
No joke :ohmy: . I had lights on all night at one stage (not with fish!)
I thought this would help the plants to establish . I totally forgot about algae :blush:
Well I didnt really forget , I just thought it would be slower to grow. Big mistake :sick:
I've cleared much of it by hand . I still have a few patches . I would prefer to get some algae eating fish rather than treat it with chemicals .Also I have switched now to 10 hours light.
Actually I will go back to perhaps 6 .
Thanks for the advice guys.

Dave
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10 Jan 2012 19:31 #41 by Guppydave (Dave Ryan)
So anyways , I reduced light to approx 8 hours . Still have algae but its not bad . Never got round to testing ammonia . I took a gamble and got some black neon tetras . So far so good.
I realize many will frown upon this gamble but I feel with a well planted tank and some common sense , it will work out . Also got a camera , still working out how to use it , so colours look a bit unusual .
Heres some pics...








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10 Jan 2012 20:44 #42 by skk123 (shaun)
Looking good Dave any fish in mind for the tank

Shaun

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11 Jan 2012 14:51 #43 by ger310 (Ger .)
The tank is looking good Dave....and please invest in a good test kit....i know they are not cheap but its a very essential thing to have as you should test your water at least once every 2 weeks but ideally weekly......Best of luck

Ger

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11 Jan 2012 21:47 - 11 Jan 2012 21:48 #44 by dave k (david)
i would agree with ger get the main ones first ph/nitrate/ammonia/gh/gh....keep the water changes going will help to control the algae..good choice on the black neons..

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12 Jan 2012 10:13 - 12 Jan 2012 10:13 #45 by Guppydave (Dave Ryan)
Thanks for the encouragement folks .Decent test kit is top of my shopping list.Second is a decent looking background. I think I'll go with black.
As regards stocking , im thinking ottos, small corys, some rummy nose or bleeding heart tetras then perhaps angels or another suitable ciclid.
I've seen some bargain angels advertized in my area so I may take a chance on them sooner rather than later.
After I've tested ammonia of course .
I'd be interested to hear some suggestions for small cory species/varieties.

Dave
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25 Jan 2012 19:52 #46 by Guppydave (Dave Ryan)
Hello again. Just dropped in for a quick progress report.
I still havent tested ammonia. :ohmy:
However my tetras are all fine and so I decided to pick up some Angelfish that were going cheap .
They are also doing well. So far my one and only fatality was around christmas , when I was given a fish prematurely as a gift .
Due to ongoing , pricey dental work , I have chosen to skimp on ammonia test for now .
Frankly I needed to get some fish in there. They give me some relief and satisfaction when my aching jaw is making me miserable .
Besides , even if I discovered an ammonia problem , I have neither the expertise or the cash to deal with it.
I will continue to maintain strict waterchange regime and cross my fingers .
I know some will object to my cavalier approach , but it is working so far .
Also from reading some threads , it seems even the best , most professional people can suffer disaster for no obvious reason. We all need a bit of luck in this game , I guess.
So far I've been lucky ,touch wood. Good luck to you all in your aquarian adventures.
Will post pic later.

Dave

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14 Feb 2012 03:39 - 14 Feb 2012 03:43 #47 by Guppydave (Dave Ryan)
My new camera is rubbish or I am a rubbish photograper.
I cant decide. Anyway heres a couple of pics.
Still all present and correct , thank the fishy gods .
Still no ammonia test :blush:
I removed the guppies.I just didnt fancy them in this tank.
I have deliberatley left algae around as I plan on getting some ottos asap.
Also some plants may get the chop . Some are a bit dirty looking, though perfectly healty as far as i know.






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14 Feb 2012 04:01 #48 by Guppydave (Dave Ryan)
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14 Feb 2012 10:29 #49 by BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
if u give the tank a GOOD clean it remove algae off the glass and that try remove as much as u can but hand as there is a lot

try dosen easycarbo it will reduce it

also there has t be a cause off the algae

how long u leaven your lights on?

wat u feedin and how much?

is the tank in sunlight all day?

if u can tell me as some as u can about the setup ferts CO2 anything at all the more the better so we have find out wat cause and get rid off it

sean

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14 Feb 2012 12:53 - 14 Feb 2012 12:54 #50 by Guppydave (Dave Ryan)
Hello sean. Im not using any ferts. Im feeding twice a day with flake food .
I made the mistake of having lights on too long at the begining but now I keep it down to 10 hours maximum.
The tank gets a bit of sun for an hour or two.
Im not so worried about the algae on the glass , its easy to clean . I have left some there as I intend on getting some ottos.
The algae on the gravel is a bit of a problem. Its very hard to remove it from the substrate.
My gravel cleaner picks up clumps of algae and manado . This causes constant blocking of the tube.
I end up scooping out handfuls of it and chucking it away.
Some of the green stuff in the pics is actually grass so its not quite as bad as it looks.

Dave.
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14 Feb 2012 22:58 - 14 Feb 2012 23:00 #51 by Christor (Chris Morrow)
long is it setup now dave? seems still quite fresh so 10 is a bit long I would say and the fact it gets direct sunlight will definitely help trigger, but itll cal down if you dont mind it o much, easycarbo supposedly works, never tried but everyone else says it does

heh even with my shrimp and ottos they never eat it all :P

The tank is looking great btw! like your layout
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