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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

First plants oh dear!

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24 Oct 2012 20:52 - 25 Oct 2012 12:26 #1 by Q_Comets (Declan Chambers)
Hi

So trying plants for the first time, probably going about it a bit backwards tank up and running with fish now trying to plant. I have some Oliver knott in one section under the gravel substrate plants will go in this section, also have some easy carbo.

Now to the questions. If I plant a plant too deep how long before it will show signs of the ill affects? And is it too late to do anything if these signs appear?

How do I not plant too deep and not have the plants floating the next morning?

Thanks
Declan
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25 Oct 2012 12:31 #2 by Q_Comets (Declan Chambers)
So I think I killed one plant, dark spots on leaves. Do I throw it away now?

Guess I covered the base of it too deep.

Any hints or tips welcome

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25 Oct 2012 13:08 #3 by fishmama (Maria Kennedy)
Hi, first I don't believe the depth of planting (unless extreme) is of enormous importance for aquarium plants survival (actually almost any plant), and other factors are more important. If you strongly feel you planted too deep, just pull them out a bit very gently.
I do believe that you should first try to wipe out the spot, it just could be brown diatoms, algae should be invading your tank much slower, in that case keep an eye on the water quality, and just wipe them down, gently.
Hope this help :)

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25 Oct 2012 14:03 #4 by Q_Comets (Declan Chambers)
Thx, I'll wipe the leaves gently and see if that helps. Thought I read somewhere if the stem of the plant gets under substrate it causes problems. I'll also check the levels it's water change day in any case

Thanks again
Dec

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25 Oct 2012 14:24 #5 by newbejkjimk (damien kelly)
Hi'
Q-comets it all depends on what plant you have some plants get their nutrients from the water i.e. java fern and these plants can't be buried in the substrate other plant must be planted in the substrate so it all depends what you have.

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25 Oct 2012 14:30 #6 by Q_Comets (Declan Chambers)
Hi

Have some java fern somewhat ineptly tied to bog wood and can't remember name of plant in trouble will post it later I think I have the name at home

Thx
Dec

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29 Oct 2012 13:18 #7 by Q_Comets (Declan Chambers)
Hi

So don't have the name of the plant, thought I kept the name tag but no sign. Here are some pic though any idea what I have done to this poor plant?






Thx
Dec
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29 Oct 2012 18:34 #8 by pit (Piotr Urbanski)
It looks like dirt or sand. Did you try to wipe it?

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29 Oct 2012 21:45 #9 by fishmama (Maria Kennedy)
It could be a young sword plant?

There could be a few reasons for the brown spots:

The plant could lack nutrients because the root system needs to develop and stabilize after the recent planting (that always somehow disrupt the roots and decrease absorption). In this case you have just to wait and cross your fingers, you have to give the plant time to adapt to new environment. No need to increase the fertilizer is you are using one.

The brown blotches on the leaves of sword plants could also be deposits of excess iron taken up by the plant when calcium is unavailable due to very soft water. Check the water parameter and add if necessary a source of calcium to fortify the water (i.e. dolomite or other).

There could be a viral infection, in this case you'll probably loose the plant, nothing you can do as far as i know, only time will tell.

Consider also that many times the plant dies and then grow back due to differences in growing condition between your tank and the original one...

Hope this help :)

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29 Oct 2012 22:15 #10 by Q_Comets (Declan Chambers)
Thanks fishmama the plant is a recent addition so perhaps it will come good. I do not have test kit for hardness so will take water to LFS for testing. Just have easy carbo do I need further fertilisation?

Thx
Dec

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29 Oct 2012 22:21 #11 by fishmama (Maria Kennedy)
no no, let it be for the moment, actually if plants are new I suppose also substrate is new, so you should have plenty of nutrients in the water. Just keep the water quality up and is a good idea to have lfs test it, so you know.... good luck, let us know how it goes!
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