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Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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03 Nov 2012 21:49 #1
by newbejkjimk (damien kelly)
Hi all, problem with keeping dwarf gourami.
I have a planted tank play sand substrate well washed, going about 8months now its 120ltr fluval 205 external filter and a eheim HOB filter,i have a co2 reactor, live stock is 4 glass cat fish,4 harlequins, 7 cardinal tetra, 2 pearl danios, 1 amano shrimp, 6 otto's,3 pepper cory cats and 2 male dwarf gourami one cobalt blue and one red and blue stripes. MY problem is that i'm having trouble keeping 2 male dwarf gourami alive have lost 2 in the past couple of months other one seems fine they dont fight or push each other about? no other fatalities at all in other fish, have had water tested in lfs as well as monitoring myself never any issues there as i change water 25/30% each week with collected rain water. any help out there please suggestions?
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03 Nov 2012 22:14 #2
by igmillichip (ian millichip)
It may be to do with something wrong in your tank, but it may also be to do with the original stock of Dwarf Gourami.
To be honest, I am finding it difficult to see decent ones being supplied. It is not the fault of the shop, it is simply that many are bred from sub-standard stock, and there is some disease doing the rounds with Dwarf Gourami.
Other than that, then it is the usual case of having to look at water parameters, maturity of the tank, and bullying in the tank.
ian
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03 Nov 2012 22:29 #3
by JohnH (John)
Sadly, like the so-called 'German' Rams Dwarf Gouramis which come from 'breeders' in the far East are pretty woeful - looking good (sometimes) in the shops, but quickly deteriorating once here far a while.
The Dwarf Gouramis are now so bad that my suggestion would be to give them a very wide berth.
For this reason I would suggest you try to look for them having been sourced from Eastern Europe - these are normally a lot stronger and stand a chance of living for more than a few weeks.
Unfortunately the demand for European-bred fish is stretching resources from that part of the world and at least one unscrupulous exporter is buying in far Eastern fish then selling them on as European-bred fish! So it would seem that even this ploy isn't foolproof. I know, I've bought some myself quite recently with (largely) disastrous consequences.
If all of your other fish in the tank you're losing the Gouramis from are fine then those are potentially the problem.
I have seen (and bought) some lovely Honey Gouramis recently which have been really good (two pairs, which regularly breed). They mightn't have quite the colouration of the Dwarfs, but the males are still little stunners. I'd suggest you try to find some of these.
But, if you're especially keen on the Dwarfs then try to find someone selling them as pairs - it has been my experience that many far-Eastern exporters only provide males whereas many of the European sellers like to export pairs, even though the females are less attractive.
Has anyone else noticed this?
John
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04 Nov 2012 02:28 #4
by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Oh JohnH.....to say that a true Honey Gourami is not as colourful as dwarf gouramis......I know you're only joking as there are few freshwater fish as lovely as a male Honey Gourami.
I happen, by pure chance, to have a wild caught female dwarf gourami.....what a pity that I don't a wild caught male. If I did, then they would be worth the effort to breed them.
She is not as colourful as a male, but she's a gourami so that makes her beautiful anyway.
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04 Nov 2012 02:36 #5
by newbejkjimk (damien kelly)
i'm sure ian that someone out there has a dwarf gourami that has lived a year or two would this not be the same as a wild caught one as it obviously has good dna to have survived?
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04 Nov 2012 11:00 #6
by igmillichip (ian millichip)
i'm sure ian that someone out there has a dwarf gourami that has lived a year or two would this not be the same as a wild caught one as it obviously has good dna to have survived?
No doubt there are, although one would expect a dwarf gourami to live longer than a year.
For whatever reason, there are few people breeding gouramis other than big commercial ventures. That means that if a good line gets into a keepers tank then more likely than not that dna line is going to die in that keepers tank.
Breeding gouramis is great fun, and if you manage to get some good stock then they are well worth the effort.
You'll never make your millions from breeding them, but trying to make your millions from breeding any fish is going to be a disappointment anyway
ian
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