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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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28 Oct 2009 19:59 #1 by John100 (John O Brien)
Hi,
I am currently in the process of setting up my new tank for discus. The tank is a juwel rio 300 litre and there is a 300 watt heater. For discus I need to be able to adjust the temperature to at least 28 Dg C and possibly up to 31 Deg C. My problem is that the heater supplied by juwel would only go to about 26.5 Degrees. I then replaced the heater with a different brand heater (Hagen). The Hagen Heater has only brought the tank to 27.2 degrees. I was wondering has anyone else had a similar problem. I have read that the juwel heaters will normally only go to 28 degrees as a safety precaution.
Does this mean I need to put a second heater in or does it mean there is a problem with the heaters I am using ?.

Rgds
John O'B

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28 Oct 2009 20:07 #2 by alkiely (alan kiely)
Juwel heaters are useless, id get a jager heater can get them on ebay pretty cheap well worth it.

In my rio 180 the heater is set to full and its only putting out 26 degrees......./

Alan

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28 Oct 2009 23:23 #3 by dubfish (Alan Martin)
Why do you need your temp up at 31:oh my: do want to cook your fish?.
The correct temp for your fish should be between 24 to 26,the only reason you would raise the temp to 28 or higher would be if you were using a medication.The higher temp speeds up the proses but once your meds have done their job bring your temp back down slowly to 24 to 26.

Juwel heaters are rubbish,any other 300W would be fine in a 300L and just one is fine.

Regards Alan..

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29 Oct 2009 06:18 #4 by Frontosa (Tim kruger)
Hi,
i agree with Alkiely.The Jaeger heaters are the best heaters on the market and you can set any temperature you need.They might be slightly dearer than others but well worth their money.Regards,Tim

Midlands - in the heart of Ireland.

Keeping and breeding : Frontosa Blue Zaires , Synodontis Petricola , Tropheus Red Rainbow (Kasanga) , Tropheus Moliro . Regulary fry for sale.
Community tank with P.Kribensis and different livebearers.

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29 Oct 2009 08:52 #5 by 2poc (2poc)
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dubfish wrote:

Why do you need your temp up at 31:oh my: do want to cook your fish?.
The correct temp for your fish should be between 24 to 26,the only reason you would raise the temp to 28 or higher would be if you were using a medication.The higher temp speeds up the proses but once your meds have done their job bring your temp back down slowly to 24 to 26.

Juwel heaters are rubbish,any other 300W would be fine in a 300L and just one is fine.


Alan - 28/30 is the temp that discus are normally kept at. The artificially high temp reduces the amount of parasites that cam survive.

John - I agree with what was said about the Juwel heaters - they're a joke...
Either way, I'd advise running two heaters.
They way they work is on a thermostat so they won't actually be running together. The reason you run two is so that if one fails you have a backup. I do this on all of my tanks, a second heater costs less than a couple of fish.

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29 Oct 2009 13:28 #6 by dubfish (Alan Martin)
Wow didn't realise Discus were kept at such high temp,i have no experience with Discus.I only keep Africans/tropheus and that high temp would be a disaster.

Regards Alan..

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29 Oct 2009 13:46 #7 by scubadim (scubadim)
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yes,jager all the way.and two is a good safe idea.:)
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29 Oct 2009 18:59 #8 by John100 (John O Brien)
Hi,
Thanks everyone for the advice. I will put a second heater in and see how it goes. Loks like the Jaeger is the way to go.

Rgds
John

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