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Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
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08 Sep 2010 20:58 #1
by barr (declan)
Hi All
I took the plunge (so to speak) and bought a JBL E1500 for my trigon 190.
Just reading through the instructions and its a bit unclear as to what to do when it comes to fitting the water feed pipe that takes the water back into the tank from the filter
I seem to have two options:
1 Wide jet pipe
2 Spray bar
Which option do ye think is better?
Probably a silly question but here goes anyway - should the outlet for the water feed pipe be over or under the water level?
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08 Sep 2010 21:30 #2
by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Fit the spray bar if your not using an airline. They create a lot of surface agitation and add oxygen to the tank. Very handy.
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08 Sep 2010 21:35 #3
by dar (darren curry)
i'd go with spray bar but try both see wat you like, i keep my outflow so it breaks the surface without making to much noise, but if i could i'd have it over the water line making a good splash. see wat suits you
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08 Sep 2010 22:24 #4
by Ma (mm mm)
I prefer the spray bar but either will be fine.
Lately I have taken to putting the output below the surface and pointing it slightly upwards so it constantly pumps water towards the surface without any noise or splashing at all, like an airpump n stone but far more effective, massive aeration provided. Obviously you dont want the water spurting from the surface and drowning the uderneath of the ballast.
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09 Sep 2010 20:00 #5
by barr (declan)
Thanks for the replies
So I gather from the above comments I can use the spray bar, both over and under the water line.
I'm guessing if I place it over the water line it will be noisy as you can hear the water spraying into the tank.
Would using the spray bar mean that less water is pumped into the tank per hour or at a slower rate ?
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09 Sep 2010 20:49 #6
by Ma (mm mm)
It should be pretty much the same volume of vater filtered per hour. You can put the bar just below the surface and aim to horizontally so it creates some surface tension.
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09 Sep 2010 22:24 #7
by dar (darren curry)
barr wrote:
I'm guessing if I place it over the water line it will be noisy as you can hear the water spraying into the tank.
but the upside of this is it drags air bubbles down into the water, creating even more oxygen in the water
i used to do this at night wen gone to bed and adjust it first thing in the morning before herself went ballistic
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10 Sep 2010 17:59 - 10 Sep 2010 18:10 #8
by barr (declan)
dar wrote:
barr wrote:
I'm guessing if I place it over the water line it will be noisy as you can hear the water spraying into the tank.
but the upside of this is it drags air bubbles down into the water, creating even more oxygen in the water
i used to do this at night wen gone to bed and adjust it first thing in the morning before herself went ballistic
Funny you should say that, the g/f was just complaining about the noise of the internal filter at the moment so don’t think I'll get away with it over the water line
Another thing I just thought of - will the piping of the filter be able to stick to the 3D background ? (which hasn’t arrived as yet)
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10 Sep 2010 19:22 #9
by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
barr wrote:
Another thing I just thought of - will the piping of the filter be able to stick to the 3D background ? (which hasn’t arrived as yet)[/quote]
Probably not. If it doesnt, just cut out a section of the background to allow for the inlet and return pipes and you wont even notice them. You could then hide them totally with plants or decor.
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10 Sep 2010 20:03 #10
by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
If you are fitting a 3D backround i would use the wide nozzle outlet instead of the spraybar.
Just have it submersed and pointed at the surface for agitation.
You can hold this in place by using the suction cups on the pipe/hose out side the tank.
The same for the intake.
This way you would have no need to mess with the backround.
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