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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Stocking suggestions for my new tank

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03 Oct 2010 20:24 #1 by PompeyBill (Killian Walshe)
Well I got myself a brand new beautiful Fluval Osaka 155 from Seahorse before I went away and am going to start getting it set up after I get over my jet lag.

I was just wondering if you guys could give me some suggestions on what I can add to it? I already have 4 Mollys, 5 Danios, and 6 Corys, as well as 4 amano shrimp in my existing tank which will be going into the new one (the missus won't let me keep both going ;)). Would like to maybe get 1 or 2 bigger fish or maybe another shoal of fish. Any suggestions?

I am also thinking of making this tank a planted tank. I have no experience of planted tanks (apart from some java moss on driftwood) so could someone recommend some plants that would do well in this tank? I am thinking of going with sand in this tank, is that ok for planting or do I need to get something to go underneath the sand? Have tried to do some research on planted tanks but I find all the info re lighting and substrate and WPG a bit confusing and also don't want to get something (plants or substrate) that is not compatible with my fish.

Sorry for the long winded post, all advice appreciated! :cheer:

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04 Oct 2010 21:07 #2 by tina.d (Tina Doyle)
hi,well depends on wot kind of tank you want ie busy or peacefull showling fish like tetras,however mollys do require a bit of salt in the water and will keep everyone on their toes :laugh: are u planning on breeding them? how many do you have and what type are they? clown loaches are lovely in community tanks when your filter sponges are matured.and a nice pleco to do the clean up.

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04 Oct 2010 22:30 #3 by PompeyBill (Killian Walshe)
Well the danios are already pretty crazy, so think I'm leaning towards the more peacful fish! I have 4 balloon mollys. Not planning on breeding them.

Would a few clown loaches not be too big for the new aquarium? I hear they can grow to 12 inches? Not dismissing your idea Tina just googled them to read up about them after you suggested them :)

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05 Oct 2010 01:33 #4 by JustinK (Justin Kelly)
What dimensions is the tank ?

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05 Oct 2010 10:10 - 05 Oct 2010 10:15 #5 by Alex (Alex)
Replied by Alex (Alex) on topic Re:Stocking suggestions for my new tank
Yep a group of clowns would be too big for that tank. There's lots of smaller loaches out there... Maybe some of these guys (Botia striata)badmanstropicalfish.com/profiles/profile65.html
Personally id get like 20 Kuhli loaches!!

How about a pearl gourami or some dwarf gourami's... A group of 7 Ottos, or a Bristle nose pleco.. all slow moving.

Id also try up the school to 10 danios.

Id start of with some Java fern... Pretty easy to grow as long as you dont burry the roots.

Edit: I just realized dyco619 tank has pearl gourami's, dwarf gourami, danios and Botia strita. Its a nice combo. www.irishfishkeepers.com/cms/component/o.../catid,517/id,82455/
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05 Oct 2010 10:35 #6 by dar (darren curry)
i always have to suggest the oddball types, khuli loach, ghost glass catfish, marble hatchets, african butterflies are all seriously cool fish although i'd watch the african butterfly wit smaller fish, you should see them stalking blue bottles and leaping out to catch them, that's it i'm buying one

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05 Oct 2010 11:55 #7 by 2poc (2poc)
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dar wrote:

i always have to suggest the oddball types, khuli loach, ghost glass catfish, marble hatchets, african butterflies are all seriously cool fish although i'd watch the african butterfly wit smaller fish, you should see them stalking blue bottles and leaping out to catch them, that's it i'm buying one


The Osaka is an open top tank, those hatchets and butterflies would be leaping out for real :laugh:

There are lots of options for a 150 litre tank. The Osaka is a nice, tall stylish tank too. Angelfish would look good in it.
The important thing is to match the fish to your water chemistry.

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05 Oct 2010 14:29 #8 by tina.d (Tina Doyle)
hi, are your mollys all the same sex? re clowns they can grow i have in a 180ltr tank and they have stayed at 4ish inches for the past year, danios are great very lively they can stress out some of the more peacefull tetras but in groups of six or more the tetras learn to just get out of the way when there on a mad swim about. how big is your tank? my experience with balloon mollys is they can be a bit bullish with really peacefull shoaling tetras,rosey barbs are a lovely addition also the more peace full of the barb family. i have one horse fased loach and he,s great for cleaning under the top lare of stones and so funnf when his head pops up out of no where and the rest of him is covered :laugh: hope this helps a bit.


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05 Oct 2010 16:33 - 05 Oct 2010 16:37 #9 by dar (darren curry)
2poc wrote:

The Osaka is an open top tank


my bad, make a lid, benfits? keeps heat, reduces evaporation and most important keeps your hatchets and butterflies from leaping out :laugh:

edit: after a bit of oul googling, beautiful tank mate

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05 Oct 2010 18:13 #10 by Alex (Alex)
Replied by Alex (Alex) on topic Re:Stocking suggestions for my new tank

re clowns they can grow i have in a 180ltr tank and they have stayed at 4ish inches for the past year,


One of my clowns is around 8-9", 6-7 years old..... Clown loaches are slow growers especially at 4-5" but a tank that size should only be temporary.... i just wouldn't want pompeybill thinking its ok to get clowns if he isn't thinking of upgrading the tank. My clowns seem massive in my 800L tank, they are also very active and need the space.

I left the feeding flap thing on my lid open one night.... Got a serious shock in the morning when i stepped on my (In my bare feet) dried up butterfly fish.!!:blush:

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05 Oct 2010 19:54 #11 by PompeyBill (Killian Walshe)
Wow, thanks for all the answers lads and ladies, lots of great suggestions there. Will definitely have to do some research on them all!

Just a quick question on the substrate. Want to go with sand this time for the corys and possible loaches. Have read on a few sites that play sand or pool filter sand is a cheaper alternative. Could anybody recommend where I could get some or maybe provide a link? Just would be afraid I would get something that could affect the fishes. Also if I do go with the sand would this be good for planting if I do go for some 'easy to look after' plants? Would I need to out a layer of anything underneath to help growth or would going with something like Eco-Complete be good? Is Eco-Complete ok with shrimp and corys?

Am going to head to the LFS this weekend so might as well get the substrate sorted in my head before the fish! Lol

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05 Oct 2010 20:05 #12 by PompeyBill (Killian Walshe)
dar wrote:

2poc wrote:

The Osaka is an open top tank


my bad, make a lid, benfits? keeps heat, reduces evaporation and most important keeps your hatchets and butterflies from leaping out :laugh:

edit: after a bit of oul googling, beautiful tank mate


Yeah its a beaut alright, when I saw it just had to get it. As for a DIY lid, not sure I would be up to that, not the best with that sort of thing! Lol

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05 Oct 2010 20:20 - 05 Oct 2010 20:27 #13 by dar (darren curry)
mine is an open top tank but came wit four small lids that sit in the supports, you could ask a diy store do they cut perspex or acrylic to size

edit: just thinking maybe perspex would dull over time, can anyone clarify this please

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26 Oct 2010 12:36 #14 by PompeyBill (Killian Walshe)
Well I have the tank up and running, used media from my old tank and its fully cycled now, readings all good. All the fish from the old tank are in there (note to self for future reference: danios are little b*stards to catch!!). I'll upload some photos in the next few days for you to criticise :laugh:

I bought myself 12 pygmy corys over the weekend (love corys and couldn't resist them when I saw them in the shop) and they are great. They have taken to chasing the danios around for a while then he chases them, very funny to watch.

I was wondering what you guys think about adding more fish? In my head I had room for more fish but had a quick look on aqadvisor and they say I'm fully stocked. The missus wants a few cardinal or neon tetras and a dwarf gourami and was just wondering if it is possible to get them in? Just to summarise the stock already

5 zebra danio
4 balloon mollys
6/7 leopard corys (they run/swim away every time I come close to the tank so its hard to count them!)
2 bronze corys
12 pygmy corys
A few shrimp

I have some plants in the tank if that makes any difference. Would the gourami be to stressed with the danios zipping around?

Thanks
Bill

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26 Oct 2010 12:47 #15 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
A small shoal of Neons or Cardinals wont have the tank police kicking your door in bro. Go for it. As for the Dwarf Gourami I would hold off until you can be sure they are from a good batch. I say this because myself and others have purchased these fish a couple of times during the year only to have them succumb to an infection that starts as a lesion and ends with big holes in the flanks that you can see through. Manky stuff. Mine was still eating and the food would end up sticking out of the hole. This happens suddenly and the fish of course, quickly dies. I believe a virus of some kind is responsible. Im unsure if this is still a problem among Dwarf Gouramis for sale here. Apparently it was happening with fish that were coming from certain suppliers so ask around. If you do locate good stock, introduce one for sure. They stay small and add plenty of colour to a setup.

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26 Oct 2010 13:12 - 26 Oct 2010 13:14 #16 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Yeah avoid the dwarf gourami's for the time being,its thought almost over 20% of those being introduced nowadays from south east asia have the virus present.Its uncurable and does lead to death Im afraid. Perhaps if you want a nice shoaling fish go for some rasbora's. You could also try some nice endlers to add abit of colour,while remaining small but not a shoaling fish and reproduce like rabbit so stick to all males if you can. Id avoid adding salt to be honest,the mollys will be fine without it I feel,while they prefer brackish water,they will be ok in freshwater,while the corys wouldnt be the best to take the salt.The shrimp are a great addition in my opinion,perhaps an assassin snail or 5 would be a good addition also?! If adding neons or cardinals,Id wait for a small while,they arent always the best of fish to add to a new set up.Cardinals tend to be hardier and imo a nicer fish as the red strip runs all the way through,and they are only marginally larger than the neons.

Gavin
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27 Oct 2010 12:54 #17 by PompeyBill (Killian Walshe)
Thanks for the replies guys. Thats crazy about the dwarf gourami's, had no idea. Pretty disgusting and sad to watch I would say. Thanks again for the replies, always get the best and correct answers here on the forum.

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