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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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03 Jan 2011 15:47 - 04 Jan 2011 18:24 #1 by barr (declan)
Hi All

I have a lot of smaller fish at the moment (tetras, guppies etc). They are due to move to a bigger set-up (190 litres) pretty soon.


I would like to get bigger fish now as well and was wondering if it’s possible to mix them with the smaller guys.

If so what bigger fish would ye suggest?

Thanks
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03 Jan 2011 16:58 #2 by Ma (mm mm)
Hi matey


You may think, ok I need to get bigger fish that wont eat my small ones:) Believe it or not I had to move a big fish away from the Tetras as they were nipping it to pieces.



Plecos are a are good choice and suit the water conditions of your current stock list. A nice Bristle nose or Snowball pleco? Will help with the glass maint too:)

Some Loaches, CLown Loach or Dario Loach are very peaceful towards tank mates usually.


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03 Jan 2011 17:12 #3 by David (David)
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Hi there

you could try some Gouramis, again watch out for fin nipping or maybe some sailfin mollies they can get quite large both generally are communal fish.

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03 Jan 2011 18:27 #4 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
hello there you could try some angel fish or even discus both peace full fish.or if you wanted some thing a bit more intresting you could try a black ghost knife fish i kept them with guppys and tetras before



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03 Jan 2011 19:08 - 03 Jan 2011 19:10 #5 by Ma (mm mm)
fishmad1234 wrote:

hello there you could try some angel fish or even discus both peace full fish.or if you wanted some thing a bit more intresting you could try a black ghost knife fish i kept them with guppys and tetras before



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The big fish I had to move was an Angel, depending on the tetra they can get nipped literally to death from stress so care of what type of Tetra is kept with the Angel I guess may be needed. I wasn't so lucky, Seapae and Black widow gave the angel a terrible time constantly

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03 Jan 2011 19:16 #6 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Serpaes and black widows belong with oscars. :) (ask any oscar)

Emperor and black phantom tetras work quite well with angels. Those tetras have some form a fietsy personality and actually don't tend to terrorise although they will try to be bosses within the tank.

Discus can mix rather well, but the high temp for discus may not suit normal guppies.

Fish such as lace (pearl) gouramis or indian giant gourami (humm...doesn't grow that big at all) would possibly not give tetras a second look yet along bother wasting energy having a go at them.

There are some very peaceful fish, but may unfortunately have an open mouth if they swim into smaller fish that would happen to fit into its mouth. African Knife fish are one such fish.

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03 Jan 2011 19:53 - 03 Jan 2011 19:55 #7 by Ma (mm mm)
Phantom are lovely Tetra alright. Discus even with the tamp right are a commitment and not imo suited to the casual community tank and deserve a little more serious effort in keeping parameters correct. and steady, I have never kept them though and I know Ian has so I will shut up about Discus:)

Gourmai would be a good choice, not likely to catch all but a sleeping or dead tetra:) They are very underrated fish, and fantastic in a biotope with many of them.


What tetras have you got Barr?



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03 Jan 2011 19:56 #8 by paddyc1 (Paddy Corrigan)
I have a pair of angels that went through a shoal of medium sized Cardinals in a few days. They are in with medium sized tetras such as pristellas and rosy tetras and no casualties with them. If your small fish can fit in your big fishes mouth then they'll soon be supper

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03 Jan 2011 21:10 #9 by Ma (mm mm)
Corydoras are a lovely peaceful tank companion. A great selection to chose from.

More Tetras? You can get larger Tetras like Buenos Aires, 4" there abouts, usually 3.5" and great active fish, they eat small snails fool about in aeration and chase each other about. Mellon Barbs in a group of 7, nice active fish.


Rainbow are lovely fish but I don't know if they will try to eat a small tetra as they will eat a 3.5cm Cherry shrimp and some tetras are not much bigger.






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04 Jan 2011 18:48 - 04 Jan 2011 18:58 #10 by barr (declan)
Thanks for the replies - some great ideas there :)


My tetras vary from neons, black skirts , red eye etc. Nothing to big.




I have some further questions though:




I used to have dwarf Gouramis and everything used to bully them. Are the bigger Gouramis susceptible to being picked on as well ?

I love the idea of Discus .Igmillichip mentioned the temperature of the tank vis a vis keeping guppies. My tank is 24 degrees. Is this ok for them? Do they have any other special requirements?

Big fan of angels as well. In the shop they seem to have big and small angels. Are there certain breeds that are smaller or do they all get quite large?
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04 Jan 2011 19:21 - 04 Jan 2011 19:22 #11 by Ma (mm mm)
barr wrote:

Thanks for the replies - some great ideas there :)


My tetras vary from neons, black skirts , red eye etc. Nothing to big.




I have some further questions though:




I used to have dwarf Gouramis and everything used to bully them. Are the bigger Gouramis susceptible to being picked on as well ?

I love the idea of Discus .Igmillichip mentioned the temperature of the tank vis a vis keeping guppies. My tank is 24 degrees. Is this ok for them? Do they have any other special requirements?

Big fan of angels as well. In the shop they seem to have big and small angels. Are there certain breeds that are smaller or do they all get quite large?



The bigger Gourami will pick on each other, I had moonlights and they chased each other but not other fish, dwarfs get bullied by their own shadow, unfortunately they are of poor quality these days with over breeding. I had a couple of 3 spot gourami, and they were gently peaceful fish even to their own. I doubt a gourami would catch a vlack skirt or redeye tbh anyways

Very good low ph soft water for discuss aint it? depending on youe tap water I guess, the better it is the less you have to change re PH ect. A few experienced Discus keepers on here can steer you in the right direction.

Not sure about the Angels, but I guess if it fits in their mouth then chomp. Silver Dollars are nice and get sizeable, I had one and he wasn;t bothered with the little fish at all, but he wasn't fully grown.



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09 Jan 2011 20:13 #12 by barr (declan)
I can't wait till my new tank is up and runnging at this stage :)

Would ye see any problems with this mix in a 190 litre Tank ?

20 small fish (tetras and guppies)
2 Discus
3 Angels
2 Gourami
2 Geophagus

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09 Jan 2011 20:44 #13 by jakepitbull (john)
" NO SKUNK LOACHES "

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09 Jan 2011 20:54 #14 by barr (declan)
I read that skunk loaches are aggressive so I would prefer to keep a more peaceful fish.

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