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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Can Discus,Tetras and Shrimp live happily together

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25 Feb 2011 00:32 - 25 Feb 2011 00:33 #1 by pjd30 (pjd30)
Can Discus,Tetras and shrimp all get along well together in my tank (500 litres).

Decided that Im not going for Angel fish now,as I have been informed that the Angel fish will end up going for the tetras and eating them,as they get bigger and grow up.

Also,my daughter now wants some Discus in the tank,as she thinks they are really nice.And I have to admit,that they do look pretty cool indeed.:)

So,will and can Discus,Tetras and Shrimp all get along in my tank?

Many thanks.:)
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25 Feb 2011 00:58 #2 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: Can Discus,Tetras and Shrimp live happily together
Shrimp = Discus Food.


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25 Feb 2011 01:21 #3 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
ok i have wild discus, angels, tetras and shrimp in the same tank with no problems what so ever, i have the bigger bamboo shrimp in which wont be eaten by discus or angels, also my tetras have never been touched, as for discus now a days the domestic strains are very hardy in comparison to a few years ago i'd say go for it, stay away from wilds till you get more expierence they are not as forgiving. cycle your tank well and take your time over it and you should be fine, and do regular water changes 10-20% a week and things should go fine

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25 Feb 2011 02:17 #4 by pjd30 (pjd30)
Hmmm,,some mixed replies there.

Might give it a go anyway.

Lets take the shrimp out of the equation for a second.

Will Discus and Tetras get along together anyway??

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25 Feb 2011 09:42 #5 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
cardinals and discus is the classic mix, but neons emperors etc should be fine

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currently 25 tanks, and breeding is the aim of everything i keep
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25 Feb 2011 13:33 #6 by derek (Derek Doyle)

So,will and can Discus,Tetras and Shrimp all get along in my tank?

Many thanks.:)


all depends on size. big eats small. a big shrimp will probably eat very small discus and tetras and vice versa. tetras and discus are carnivores but will only eat what fits in their (quite small) mouths. some of the shrimps are omnivores and again will eat what they can manage size wise. get the sizes in proportion and they should co exist.

30 tanks specialise in african cichlids, angelfish and various catfish

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25 Feb 2011 14:11 #7 by pjd30 (pjd30)
Thanks for that,was hopin to get young enough fish and watch them adapt and grow over time in the tank.

Maybe just 3 Discus as I saw what size they grow to this morning,but the pet store chap and my girlfriend assured me that Discus are a timmid fish and rather shy.

I think I will give the discus,tetras and shrimp a go,and see how it goes.

As you have said,I just have to get the size and balance right,and all "should" be fine and dandy.:)

Thanks again.

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25 Feb 2011 15:07 #8 by alan61979 (Alan)
I wouldn't go for 3 Discus. If you don't have the space for 6 minmum I'd give them a miss. As already stated, they're not fish for beginners.

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25 Feb 2011 18:58 #9 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
I can't comment on the shrimp inclusions....

However, I would tend to agree with Sheag.

There are a lot of myths and snobbery about Discus, it's about time to get rid of the myths and snobbery (which are often either made-up by those who have disastrous experiences OR are copied directly from a 1930s book on fish keeping).

Ordinarily, Discus might not be a fish that would go anywhere near the top of the list of recommended fish for a beginner. But someone starting out can do some homework, and get it right if they follow the basic needs.
But as Sheag says....forget about Wild Discus for now....and I would agree with that fully, as I would agree with forgetting about starting with Altum Angel Fish or many other wild caught fish.

What might be a good idea is to simply set-up the tank with a few tetras....eg Emperor tetras make great fish and good discus 'friends' (for want of a better word).
After a few weeks add some cardinals and sterbae corys.
Let that system run for a month or 2....if all is OK, then eye-up some good quality but cheap discus.

Keep the water in tip-top condition and give a good varied diet.

If you start with duff fish, then you'll end up with even duffer fish.

There is no need to spend the earth on what claim to be 'quality' discus either.

Avoid darkened, or slimey, or thin (look at the shoulder area head-on), or overly big-eyed fish. Look at their faeces...if stringy then avoid.

Discus in good health are alert fish and are relaxed in the water if it is in good condition....buy alert fish.

ian

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25 Feb 2011 19:17 #10 by pjd30 (pjd30)
Thanks for that advice,some good info for me to take in and digest there.
Thanks.

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