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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Are cable ties safe to use in aquarium?

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07 May 2011 12:00 #1 by barr (declan)
Hi All

I'm looking to tie a few plants into position and was wondering if cable ties are safe to use ?

If not, does anyone have an alternative.


Thanks :)

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07 May 2011 12:22 #2 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
I've used them. No ill effects.

ian

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07 May 2011 12:31 #3 by Fishowner (Gavin fishowner)
Should be fine altogether.
Gavin

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07 May 2011 13:18 #4 by murph (Tony Murphy)
They are fine.

Superglue is good too!

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07 May 2011 14:29 #5 by Acara (Dave Walters)
My only concern would be if a small fish got stuck between one and whatever it is tied around,injuring itself.As long as they are hard up against the wood or rock or whatever,then that shouldn't be a worry.

always on the lookout for interesting corys.pm me if you know off any!

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07 May 2011 16:32 - 07 May 2011 16:33 #6 by JohnH (John)
I use them regularly in water and have never had any issue with them.
My only 'gripe' is that, after time, the plastic hardens and they break.
I think this is due to the plasticiser used in their moulding process, under water it disperses from the ties, leaving them hard and brittle - in much the same way as cheap plastic 'suckers' get hard and no longer stick to the glass.
However, the process doesn't happen overnight but is worth bearing in mind for the long term.

John

Location:
N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


ITFS member.



It's a long way to Tipperary.
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07 May 2011 17:46 #7 by christyg (Chris Geraghty)

They are fine.

Superglue is good too!


Cable ties no problem.. Not sure about superglue though.

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08 May 2011 02:54 #8 by murph (Tony Murphy)

They are fine.

Superglue is good too!


Cable ties no problem.. Not sure about superglue though.


I would have thought that the tiny amount of acetic acid produced by a drop of CA glue (originally designed to stick human skin back together!) curing, that a matured filter can cope with easily, is far less harmful than the iron/chrome/tin composite that is the springy bit in a cable-tie decomposing in water over time is.
The plasticisers and mould-release agents in the vinyl can also be a worry, but in practice are harmless.

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08 May 2011 09:22 #9 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
We're talking the basic principles of toxicology here.....
All things are poisons;
Nothing is without poison:
for it is the dose that makes something poisonous or not.


Even the most toxic of substances is harmless in extremely low doses, but something that is considered quite safe or harmless substance can be poisonous if a certain dose is exceeded (I cannot think of any exceptions to that).

But for something to be a poison to the body it must also get to the body where it will act to be toxic.
If a kilo of hydrogen cyanide is in a safe on the moon, then it is not any risk to me unless I venture to the moon and crack the safe. :)

For the so-called super-glues, there does need to be care on what is being termed 'super-glue'.
It seems to be a general term used for various adhesives even though it should really be used for the cyanoacrylate type 'super-glue'.
Other things commonly called superglues by the general public may be of a sort that are quite toxic to fish....but when we look at those products, they are not cynoacrylate super-glues at all, they are just very good strong glues (eg maybe an expoxy type glue).

A hazard warning is put on super-glue about ingestion....but that is more of a safeguard than anything as it is likely to polymerise in the mouth before it can get to the gut. ie toxicological data is a bit scant for reasons such as this.

@Murph...I must correct you on a bit of a myth: super-glue was not originally designed to stick human skin back together; cyanoacrylates were invented and used by Kodak films company. :)

Ian

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08 May 2011 11:04 #10 by murph (Tony Murphy)
Oh. Is there nothing they didn't invent?

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08 May 2011 11:28 #11 by igmillichip (ian millichip)

Oh. Is there nothing they didn't invent?


I'm just trying to think of something that they didn't invent.....Ummmm, quite difficult really to find much. :)

Interestingly, and as a by-the-by, our modern (before digital cameras) colour film (it is a roll of stuff that people used to put in cameras....just for the younger readers here) was invented by a pair of cello players (or violinists or other such non-professional musical 'scientists') who did a bit of part time work at Kodak.

AND, for another piece of linked trival rubbish (may come in handy for a pub-quiz), many of the modern super-glues contain Hydroquinone. Hydroquinone is a choice chemical in certain families of photographic film developers.

Whoops...and another trivial link coming on now......and hydroquinone is used in some make-ups (or skin treatments....you know all them quasi scientific ads of 'contains factor Q' and 'pre-pro-semi-hemi-retinol-factor Q complex') to lighten the skin.....just perfect for a model having a photograph taken on film invented by Kodak, and processed in hydroquinone.

What a fantastic kodak-driven world we live in. :)

ian

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11 May 2011 19:58 #12 by christyg (Chris Geraghty)

Oh. Is there nothing they didn't invent?


They haven't invented a machine that will pick the winning lotto numbers for me :lol: :lol:

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