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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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22 Feb 2010 18:59 #1 by bart (Bart Korfanty)
Hi
Anyone ever used hydrogen peroxide or Potasium Permanganate in existing tank?
I want to know what's the impact on plants, can move fish for period of treatment as well as whole filtration.
Not interested in "natural methods" been there done that - not working for me :S
So if any of You have any experience with these or maybe other substances i would appreciate some insight.
Thanks

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22 Feb 2010 19:03 #2 by stretnik (stretnik)
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Esha Gastropex

Kev.

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22 Feb 2010 19:33 - 22 Feb 2010 19:36 #3 by Xeon (ioan micu)
They are not meanth to be used in an existing ank, first they will kill your filter and second it's gonna be nearly imposible to control the dosage so efectivnes can be zero or the opposite, u might kill all your fish. In an estabilished tank better use any of shelf products in petshops after u take out as much of the snail population so you won't polute your tank. You can remove most of your snails by putting some lettuce on a dish you can easily remove from the tank. Leave that in the tank overnight and repeat a couple of times. No feeding or little feeding helps.
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23 Feb 2010 13:37 #4 by mickeywallace (Michael Wallace Cath Woods)
totally agree with Xeon that is the best advice. loaches are another option but again feeding is key if there is easy food in the tank they ignore the snails.

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23 Feb 2010 18:34 #5 by pkearney (Phil Kearney)
potassium permanganate wont cure your snail problem but it is a very useful compound.
medicinally it is used as an antiseptic and a fungicide. it cures athlethes foot and
other female problems. it can be used to control fish diseases and parasites
including bacterial gill infection and skin ulcers. it dramatically improves water
quality by reducing biological oxygen demand as a result of disolved organic
matter. it is effective against fungus,bacteria and algae. it also controls
parasitic nudibranches in aquariums.a dosage rate of one per 10,000 is recomended.
this would leave the water a nice pink colour. any higher dosage is dangerous.
i still use it.
phil

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24 Feb 2010 02:23 - 24 Feb 2010 02:29 #6 by Xeon (ioan micu)
Phil u omited at list one zero there, potassium permanganate should be used as 2mg/litre as a long bath 4 to 6 hours, 10mg/l as a shorth bath 10-20 min, that is one part per 100.000. U can use the dose u recomended for a realy shorth plant bath, no fish or other live critters. Still I whould use a weaker solution for a longer period of time. This is one long story that should not be made short.

I whould not recomend anyone to use it unless they really know what they are doing.

I do agree with you about the medicinal uses.

@Bart They are not used to control snail populations in a tank. As they are strong oxidants u can use them to get rid of the snails on the plants in a buket of water. In small concentrations the snails won't die they will just get as deep in their shell as they can so they won't be attached on anything. The snails will be at the bottom of your bucket while u can easily take the plant out "clean". In higher concentrations the snails whould die.

At list this worked out for me everytime.
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26 Feb 2010 16:26 #7 by bart (Bart Korfanty)
Thanks everyone

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26 Feb 2010 16:44 #8 by Nozebleed (Anders Van Cranlers)
maybe get one of the sponsers to order some assassin snails for you..im thinking about it myself as i;ve a few snails knocking about.

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01 Mar 2010 09:42 #9 by Denis (Denis Goulding)
The assasin snails are great if u have a small population of pest snails, but if u have lots well, they can only eat so much.
Regards,
Denis..........

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01 Mar 2010 10:19 #10 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
pkearney wrote:

potassium permanganate wont cure your snail problem but it is a very useful compound.
medicinally it is used as an antiseptic and a fungicide. it cures athlethes foot and
other female problems. it can be used to control fish diseases and parasites
including bacterial gill infection and skin ulcers. it dramatically improves water
quality by reducing biological oxygen demand as a result of disolved organic
matter. it is effective against fungus,bacteria and algae. it also controls
parasitic nudibranches in aquariums.a dosage rate of one per 10,000 is recomended.
this would leave the water a nice pink colour. any higher dosage is dangerous.
i still use it.
phil


Hi Phil,

Is this stuff any use against Planaria? They are not in the tank but have colonised my filter (canister). I have already tried giving it a good scrub and have drastically reduced feeding and this has helped alot but they are still there in smaller numbers though. Should I just continue with the small feeding policy as I think Im winning the battle but would like to see them gone for good, if thats even possible. Cheers,

Jay

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01 Mar 2010 13:11 #11 by stretnik (stretnik)
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For Jay.


www.aquaticquotient.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14641

Might be worth a look.

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01 Mar 2010 22:41 #12 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Cheers Kev, will look into these ;) .

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10 Mar 2010 11:07 #13 by bart (Bart Korfanty)
decided to go with eSHa GASTROPEX, read a lot of good opinions in many places
got miself one of them snail traps to remove as many as possible
that contraption works pretty well
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11 Mar 2010 17:06 #14 by NosIreland (Andrius Kozeniauskas)
I have great results killing snails with Easycarbo.
It is not supposed to be used for that but it eradicates snails. Do not use it if you have shrimps.

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11 Mar 2010 17:38 #15 by stretnik (stretnik)
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I have wall to wall shrimps & Nerite Snails and use Easycarbo, it neither affects Shrimp nor Snails in any of my setups.


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11 Mar 2010 20:03 #16 by Xeon (ioan micu)
The dose that does not kill shrimp won't kill snails either ;).

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11 Mar 2010 22:14 #17 by NosIreland (Andrius Kozeniauskas)
stretnik wrote:

I have wall to wall shrimps & Nerite Snails and use Easycarbo, it neither affects Shrimp nor Snails in any of my setups.


Kev.

It will if you overdose it which I did in heavy planted tank.

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