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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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29 Jun 2011 15:30 - 13 Jan 2013 21:28 #1 by bart (Bart Korfanty)
Decided to revive this post as i have means now to record decent enough quality vids and can add some here. I kept breeding these fellas over a while now and got very good results

First one is female with 3 days swimming fry
Second is 4 weeks old fry at the stage when they not interested in following the female anymore
The third is some young adults males from previous spawning



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29 Jun 2011 15:47 #2 by JohnH (John)
Excellent pictures Bart, Nice to see someone breeding Apistos - keep up the good work.
John

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29 Jun 2011 15:57 #3 by derek (Derek Doyle)
good man bart. that looks like a nice brood. good home bred apistos are always sought after.

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29 Jun 2011 20:53 #4 by Pat (Pat Coogan)
congrats man. I am so jealous, i couldnt manage to keep them let alone breed them. I had to give up on apistos. fantastic pics :cool:

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02 Jul 2011 22:16 #5 by bart (Bart Korfanty)
Cheers lads
Just moved the house - uff
I was concerned that she may eat them all when disturbed
Fortunately everything went well tho
I put the female and fry into separate small bags, than i put the bags in small bucket that they could see each other. The fry immediately gathered at the side where female was. This minimized stress and when they went back to the tank everything was fine.

Will make proper post about breeding them when I'm fully settled
More photos will come if this is successful ;)

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08 Jul 2011 13:25 - 11 Jul 2011 19:54 #6 by bart (Bart Korfanty)
Her's a few details
I used regular 54l tank, no gravel, no plants, cascade filter set on minimum flow and sponge guard on inlet.
Male and female was conditioned for couple of weeks on white worms, beef heart, live daphnia and cyclops, live black mosquito larvae, guppy fry.
I used RO water mixed with tap to obtain around 1dH, pH lowered to 6 after few days of filtering through peat, temperature 28 Celsius.
As the substrate for eggs few small terracotta pots and coconut shell went in
They spawned after 2 days and i removed the male. According to different sources harem spawning is possible with 1 male and multiple females. This will require much larger tank though.
The larvae started to swim after 6 days and i put in lump of java moss to let the fry catch some infusoria in it. They are big enough to eat brine shrimp nauplii and micro worms from the very beginning.
They are 1 week old now and tripled in size.
Male

Female


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08 Jul 2011 13:41 #7 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Great stuff. The young are looking good.

ian

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08 Jul 2011 17:11 #8 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: Apistogramma Cacatuoides
Well done,

ANYONE KNOW A WORD STRONGER THAN JEALOUS ????

Kev. :sick: :sick: :sick:

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23 Jul 2011 13:46 #9 by bart (Bart Korfanty)
It's almost a month now and female lost interest in fry completely.
I started to give them some Tetra Prima food. They eat it without any fuss.
Will move the fry to bigger tank soon.

In the meantime i got my hands on variation called "DOUBLE RED" - prettier, less often available and more expensive. It's a female and u can compare her with the one with babies. Last two photos.







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23 Jul 2011 17:53 #10 by BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
fry are coming along great wont be long befor ya will have to move them alone keep up the great work mate

also the female looks very well

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06 Aug 2011 21:08 #11 by ceech (Desmond Gaynor)
wow very nice :-) your water conditions are bang on when they are breeding :-)
I had fry from apistos before but they were in a community tank so only 2 survived.
Beautiful double red you have :-)
Makes me wanna have a go at breeding them :-) i have some egyptian cichlid fry at the minute :-)


parents
mum is the top one

dad need to get better pics of him he is fast :-)


another of my holding females

older fry

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06 Aug 2011 21:35 #12 by andrewo (andrew)
@bart you do have the magic touch mate; hope you dont run out of tanks/room at this rate! :)

@ceech you need a fish house soon in norway! :laugh:

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06 Aug 2011 22:00 #13 by ceech (Desmond Gaynor)
lol i aint far off it ,my woman would say i already have one with 10 tanks :-)
what i need is a new house and a fish room of my very own :cool:

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08 Aug 2011 15:14 - 08 Aug 2011 15:21 #14 by bart (Bart Korfanty)
@ceech Pretty little fellas, never had them before myself. Great job.

@andrewo I wish i have magic touch though :P

Her's some new pics. It's 6 weeks now and growth rate is really fast and they become a lot more active. Before they were staying in shadow of lump of java moss and close to coconut shell. Now it's all over the tank. They are around 1cm long. As for diet it's still brine shrimp also live cyclops, white worms and tetra prima as red coloring food. Started to give them very finely chopped beef heart and they are mad about it.





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08 Aug 2011 15:18 - 08 Aug 2011 15:23 #15 by bart (Bart Korfanty)
?? for some reason the post duplicated itself ?? I just deleted second one which was here
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08 Aug 2011 17:12 #16 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
So....without taking away from Bart's thread....@ceech, thumbsup on being one of the few people who still keep the old egyptians (I was only saying in an LFS last week that I never see them around anyomore).
BUT......have you started your own thread on them and the fry? if not, why not? (YOU HAVE TO ANSWER BTW....as I want to see some proper african cichlids mentioned a bit more on forums :)....I'll get killed by the malawi crew for that)

And Bart.....looking really good I must say.
And.....great that you gave details of the conditions for all to use as a reference. :cool:

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08 Aug 2011 20:29 #17 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Excellent stuff lads, well done.

Jay

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08 Aug 2011 22:17 - 08 Aug 2011 22:19 #18 by ceech (Desmond Gaynor)
picture of my double red for ya bart poor fella has died since he was my favouite fish paided allot for him was f1 and his parents were beautful :-) i want some wild one to breed with myself , but can be hard to get here in norway.

his lady


bright yellow ready to mate :-)
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08 Sep 2011 19:54 #19 by bart (Bart Korfanty)
A little update
They are 3cm, diet is beef heart, white worms and daphnia/cyclops
Starting to show colors







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08 Sep 2011 20:35 #20 by ceech (Desmond Gaynor)
Very very nice great job :-)

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10 Sep 2011 09:05 #21 by bart (Bart Korfanty)
cheers :)
there's some great setups u have yourself mate
all u missing now is some rainbowfish ;)

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09 Oct 2011 16:23 #22 by bart (Bart Korfanty)
Hi all
This is the last update on them. The largest ones approaching 5cm.
I don't have anything to add really. If u look at the start date of the post it took only around 3 months to get to this stage. They grow really fast provided the diet is not only dry food ;). Unfortunately the photos don't do them justice.







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09 Oct 2011 19:31 #23 by des (des)
nice job Bart
well done
they're growing really well
fairplay to Ya






Des

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16 Oct 2011 18:07 #24 by ceech (Desmond Gaynor)
Very nice bart :-)
I have 2 new setups now with dwarf apisto.
Agassi apisto and Macmaster's Apisto i am hoping to see some fry :-)
PH is good now and eating well and cleaning caves so all signs are good :-)
I have to get around to posting pictures of all my new tank setups and fish.

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16 Oct 2011 20:16 #25 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
Had a nice pair of double reds before in a community tank didnt work out for me tho would love another go at them in a breeding tank




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16 Oct 2011 20:31 #26 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: Apistogramma Cacatuoides (last update)
I think I said I was Jealous before, I won't say it again... ah crap, just did ! well done, I have never been lucky with Apistos.

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13 Jan 2013 21:23 #27 by bart (Bart Korfanty)
Decided to revive this post as i have means now to record decent enough quality vids and can add some here. I kept breeding these fellas over a while now and got very good results

First one is female with 3 days swimming fry
Second is 4 weeks old fry at the stage when they not interested in following the female anymore
The third is some young adults males from previous spawning



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