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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin


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Corydoras schultzei black, first spawn (for me:))!

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08 Apr 2012 21:50 #1 by Melander (Andreas Melander)
I had a pleasant surprise today, my group of Corydoras schultzei "black form" spawned for the first time.



The group consists of two males and two females, approximately 12 months old, however only one female participated this time.

I was so delighted when I saw it and completely forgot to take pictures of the eggs, too busy collecting them I suppose.

There was no other trigger than weekly 20% water changes and regular feeding of catfish pellets, waffers and blood worms. In fact I had actually not done this week’s water changes yet. A possible trigger could have been the C. panda’s regular breeding behaviour.

Having these two species breeding in the same tank is slightly worrying as the last thing i want is hybrids. As I was monitoring the spawning today there was no interaction between the two species but I do need to move the C. schultzei group to their own tank.

Two males and one female took part in the typical cory T-position and the eggs were scattered on the front glass of the tank, right in the current of a wavemaker.

The egg count seems to be somewhere between 40 and 50, sadly at first glance many seem to be infertile but I hope the ratio will improve as the fish gain experience. They are now being kept in a breeding net in the same tank as the parents, hopefully everything will go well and there will be a positive update soon.


Readings:
Temperature: 24.5 °C
pH: 7

Melander

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08 Apr 2012 22:05 #2 by BlueRam (Sean Crowe)
hope all goes well for u make sure u keep us posted

also have u got C. panda’s fry at the mo??

Sean

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09 Apr 2012 08:17 - 09 Apr 2012 08:20 #3 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: Corydoras schultzei black, first spawn (for me:))!

I had a pleasant surprise today, my group of Corydoras schultzei "black form" spawned for the first time.



The group consists of two males and two females, approximately 12 months old, however only one female participated this time.

I was so delighted when I saw it and completely forgot to take pictures of the eggs, too busy collecting them I suppose.

There was no other trigger than weekly 20% water changes and regular feeding of catfish pellets, waffers and blood worms. In fact I had actually not done this week’s water changes yet. A possible trigger could have been the C. panda’s regular breeding behaviour.

Having these two species breeding in the same tank is slightly worrying as the last thing i want is hybrids. As I was monitoring the spawning today there was no interaction between the two species but I do need to move the C. schultzei group to their own tank.

Two males and one female took part in the typical cory T-position and the eggs were scattered on the front glass of the tank, right in the current of a wavemaker.

The egg count seems to be somewhere between 40 and 50, sadly at first glance many seem to be infertile but I hope the ratio will improve as the fish gain experience. They are now being kept in a breeding net in the same tank as the parents, hopefully everything will go well and there will be a positive update soon.


Readings:
Temperature: 24.5 °C
pH: 7

Melander


One thing that you must remember when breeding Fish of the same Genus is, Sperm doesn't care what it fuses with, if it's mixed in the Water column it could result in fertilised Eggs that were present at the same time from another Fish of the same Genus.

The spawning could have been triggered by the drop in Air pressure that's resulted in this lovely Bank Holiday Morning we have today :-(( :-((

Kev.
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09 Apr 2012 08:42 #5 by Melander (Andreas Melander)
@Kev: I was mainly looking at the interaction between the two species (none in this case), but when you put it like that it makes sense that there does not need to be any.

How long do you think sperm would survive in the water?

I think I'm ok in this case as there was no other spawning in the tank that day or today, but you could never be sure as the pandas can be sneaky spawners.

This just confirms that they schultzei needs to be moved a.s.a.p, I had hoped to have moved them before any spawns, I did not see this one coming. My pandas usually "dance" for a day or two prior to the spawn but these ones just went at it.

The air pressure might have been it, I'm adding that to my log book.

Melander

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09 Apr 2012 08:58 #6 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re: Corydoras schultzei black, first spawn (for me:))!
I have to put up my Hands and say, I'm not sure how long, some reports say it hasn't been tested enough to be sure or exact.

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09 Apr 2012 09:38 #7 by Melander (Andreas Melander)
Did not think about it when I asked, but I would have been extremely impressed if you would have nailed that one, for one particular species :P

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09 Apr 2012 12:11 #8 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
The female drinks the sperm from the male, and then fertilises the eggs via her anus as she lays the eggs awy from the males.
Hence, the probabilities of stray sperm competing from within the bulk of the aquarium is reduced quite considerably (but life is life, and nature is not always perfect even with the defence systems that sperm have in defending against other sperm populations).

Congrats on spawning these....hope to see some little uns soon.

Ian

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10 Apr 2012 19:09 #9 by derek (Derek Doyle)
although possible it is unlikely that the two species mentioned would cross fertilise. also as kev says air and barometric pressure does act as a trigger with catfish such as corys, loricarids and even synos.
the interesting thing about the cory species mentioned is that panda fry are very slow growing whereas fry of the schultzi/aeneus group grow rapidly. so it would be interesting to see what happened if they were to hybridise.

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10 Apr 2012 20:26 #10 by Melander (Andreas Melander)
Thanks Ian and Derek for the input, it makes me feel a bit reassured about potential inbreeding. The group is moving anyway, it was always the plan.

The pandas are indeed painstakingly slow growers, and topped with that they lay very few eggs scattered all over the place. This was a pain in the beginning but as the group has grown big enough for group spawns It is easier to manage.
Looking forward to watch the schultzei grow though:)

Melander

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