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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

specific line breeding angelfish

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10 Apr 2012 11:43 #1 by davey_c (dave clarke)
i'm not talking about throwing a mixed pair into an aquarium and creating pointless hybrids but just wundering if anyone has tried for certain genetics in angelfish before? is it even a possibility to without having to out-cross and flush the undesirable mutations considering the crap thats imported?
just wundering about other peoples thought and possible experiences (if you have attempted line breeding) on the topic or if there is an lfs who can actually tell the line or breeder of the angelfish... it could make for some lovely looking fish and i think make some more concious about breeding because their still very popular :)

cheers

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10 Apr 2012 18:05 #2 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
I've mainly done my line breeding to get certain strains with discus and siamese fighters, but can offer a bit of insight into angelfish.....especially as I only really like 2 types of angels (and one if the original wild type).

If you have a phenotype in a shop that is know to be due to homozygous recessive genes, then you have an increased degree in confidence on getting your expected outcomes.

If you have colours that are due to partial or incomplete dominance then you start to get into interesting territory but with some degree of confidence on outcomes.

If your colours are due to a dominant version of a gene then you really are just guessing without getting your first few lines out of the way.

Ian

Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.

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10 Apr 2012 20:38 #3 by davey_c (dave clarke)
cheers for that ian, gives me a bit more google material to understand which is which :cheer: my knolledge on genes are limited but i take it the principles are basicly the same between angelfish/discus/siamese fighters?... so the same reading material can apply to all without much variation in breeding practices but only the fish used :unsure:
i have a single (what appears to be male) wild P. scalare but due to breeding habits in the wild and some seem to class the scalare as a possible hybrid of many different genes (due to hybridisation in the wild) i was trying to find out if there was a recessive gene to work with but it seems impossible to tell unless i experiment as you say... that won't be possible for a while so there's lots of time to explore the net for info :)

dave

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