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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Killifish Egg Development

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10 May 2010 18:19 #1 by Puddlefish (Colin McCourt)
Being a Killifish enthusiast for many a long year, I'd bred quite a lot of species in days gone by but never really given a thought towards the embryonic stage and the processes involved in fry development from the day the egg is laid until the fry eventually emerges.
Armed with a little USB microscope I will, by means of pictures try to set that record straight. I will use the same egg each day. I cannot however predict if the egg will go full term until hatch but I will persevere with this project until I get this topic to completion. Please bare with me as this is as new to me as it is to you.



The following egg comes from an initial batch of 12 eggs of Aphyosemion elberti Mali Mombal JVC 07 laid on Mon 17th Aug 2009
and comes from a tank containing a sexed trio (1 Male:2 Females)
I hope to show you the embryonic development within the egg from spawning to hatch.
The egg development time should be anywhere between 12 to 21 days and is temperature dependant.

I hope you enjoy this, as I delve into something a little different.
The image below is of the egg in a globule of water on a glass slide. The egg is in the centre of the picture. The debris around the egg are fragments of Peat


Day 1) Mon 17th Aug 2009.
The egg has just been harvested from the mop and stored upon wet Peat Moss.
Cell division has already started. The colouration of the egg is whitish opaque/semi transparent.
The egg diameter is around 1.5mm, Incubated at a temperature of 76'F.


Day 2) Tue 18th August 2009
As you can see from the image above a substantial change has taken place in regards to development within the membrane. There is now a much more solid mass.


Day 3) Wed 19th Aug 2009.
Again a marked increase in development. At the bottom left of the egg, there appears to be some semblance of the backbone starting to form.
I do not know what the dark speckling inside the egg is at the present moment. I'm no scientist, but I would be curious to find out what, if anything, they actually represent. You can also see that the developing fish embryo has grown somewhat and now fills the egg cavity more fully than in the previous days.


Day 4) Thurs 20th Aug 2009.
Another 24 hours have passed and you can now see that there are two large darkened spheres on the embryo body itself Possibly the eyes starting to form.


Day 5) Fri 21st Aug 2009.
Annimation....Today I can report that the first visible signs of a heartbeat within the egg has been noticed, it is located between and just slightly above the two dark spheres (possible eyes). It is reddish/brown in colouration and is pumping away. I will try to get a small video clip uploaded at some point in the days ahead to show this new truly amazing development


Day 6) Sat 22nd Aug 2009.
The formation of the fry has really took on another great transformation today with the tail section being clearly visible wrapped around the inside of the egg wall. The heart is still pumping hard.

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I have managed to take a short video of this phenomenon today....If you look closely you can see the heart pumping directly behind the two eyes.


Day 7) Sun 23rd Aug 2009.
The tail is clearly visible from this overhead shot.
The abdomen area is still ball shaped, I will expect this to trim off and elongate in the comming days prior to hatching.


Day 8) Mon 24th Aug 2009.
One full week has passed in the day in a life of a fish embryo, things are still moving at pace, the internal organs have darkend and the tail section seems to have thickened and lengthened somewhat.


Day 9) Tue 25th Aug 2009.
The tail section really looks a lot more broader today, and as expected, the ball shaped abdomen area has become more streamline and elongated as the internal organs develop and grow. Interestingly the eyes have yet to form properly.


Day 10) Wed 26th Aug 2009.
Today we can see some resemblance of the Iris's forming in the eye areas. There is a sac under the throat which may be the stomach or initial yolk sac. There appears to be a lot of activity in this small area. A lot of fluids being pumped around within.


Day 11) Thurs 27th Aug 2009.
The most noticeable things about today's development are the iris's of the eyes, they now peer out at you as the embryo takes on a more fish like appearance.


Day 12) Fri 28th Aug 2009.
HATCHED!
The fry broke free from it's egg casing around 2pm today. It's a fully viable fish (swim bladder inflated) it is deporting correctly and taking initial feeds of Microworm and Brineshrimp. I hope this will be the first of many........
Thank you for following this thread, I hope that you have enjoyed this mini journey as much as I have.


N.B. All images in this thread are my own work. If you wish to use any of the above images, please ask.
Regards
Colin

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10 May 2010 20:01 #2 by JohnH (John)
Excellent post, thanks so much for sharing this with us.
John

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N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


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It's a long way to Tipperary.

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10 May 2010 20:17 #3 by mickdeja (Mick Whelan)
Brilliant work Colin and so many good pics, i love it, keep up the good work.......:) :)

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10 May 2010 21:10 #4 by bart (Bart Korfanty)
That's briliant work !!!!
browsing for microscope at the moment, hope to have closer look on things ;)

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11 May 2010 11:11 #5 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Really great to see some dedicated science work done in the home.

Keep up the good work.

ian

Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.

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11 May 2010 17:51 #6 by Zoom (Zoom)
Again Absolutely brilliant , well done.

I loved the video of the heart , I never noticed that before even when I often looked at eggs under the microscope to see them when they were eyed up. Very impressive and detailed report.

Cheers
Alan

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