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Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
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I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
Potential ich PLEASE HELP!
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26 Apr 2013 20:34 #1
by Gilly (Sean GIllivan)
Hey everyone,
Over the fast few weeks ive been noticing odd behavior in a few of my fish. They have been scratching themselves off the gravel and moor wood by flicking onto their side and hitting off the objects. I cannot see any sign of ich there is obvious white spots but it could be the start of it.
I would use a salt in the tank but i have cory pygmeus and have read that salt and cory dont go well together?
Anyone have any advice for me in relation to diagnosing it and treatment?
i can move the cory into a tempory 35 litre with a betta if need be..... but i dont want it spreading to the betta.
Thank you
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26 Apr 2013 21:09 #2
by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Assuming this is white-spot:
1. scrub all corners of the tank, and remove mulm from under rocks/wood etc.
2. clean the gravel thoroughly.
3. do a nice careful partial water change.....but don't stress the fish anymore (so maybe 30%)
4. increase aeration and make sure there is good water movement in all parts of the tank.
5. add some filter floss to a filter.
6. buy a suitable medication.....eSHa Exit is one of the safest, but not necessarily the best (but the best does not mix with all fish)
7. remove any activated carbon or other moelcular filtration (eg zeolites) before adding medicattion.
8. If all the species of fish will tolerate an increased temperature (say 80 to 85 F) then increase the temp (the Cory needs attention as not all Cory's will tolerate very high temps).
9. Dose according to the medication.....precisely and for as long as the medication says.
Don't assume that when you see any white-spot on the fish have gone that the disease has gone.
The medications work by killing the parasite when it is not on the fish.
Review any mulm build up in the future.
ian
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26 Apr 2013 21:12 #3
by igmillichip (ian millichip)
ps.
You should be looking for white-spots on the fish fins, body or gills.
If you have a good magnifying glass, then look at edges in the tank near the gravel.....you may see little "things" (not worms) clinging to the glass.
If you have a skin swab from a fish, then that under a microscope if THE definitive diagnosis.
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01 May 2013 20:59 #4
by Gilly (Sean GIllivan)
thanks very much as always ian. cant see any spots but ill be scrubbing in the morning... they seem to have calmed down after my last water change.
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02 May 2013 08:12 #5
by Homer (Kevin)
Hey everyone,
Over the fast few weeks ive been noticing odd behavior in a few of my fish. They have been scratching themselves off the gravel and moor wood by flicking onto their side and hitting off the objects. I cannot see any sign of ich there is obvious white spots but it could be the start of it.
I would use a salt in the tank but i have cory pygmeus and have read that salt and cory dont go well together?
Anyone have any advice for me in relation to diagnosing it and treatment?
i can move the cory into a tempory 35 litre with a betta if need be..... but i dont want it spreading to the betta.
Thank you
My suggestion is to everyone, before adding new purchases to your setups.... Quarantine your new babies before adding them to an established Aquarium. Increase Oxygen to the Tank because the parasite attached to the Gill plates make breathing more difficult.
If you want to use a medication, I have spare eSHa Exit and live nearby.
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02 May 2013 12:58 #6
by jwm (sean sean)
I have a juwel tank with internal filter i use it for nursing and stuff its not running at the minute if you want a lend to split your fish up you can borrow till your sorted.
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08 May 2013 13:31 - 08 May 2013 20:42 #7
by Paul Healy (paul healy)
Can anyone say if garlic added to their diet will help there immune system fight it off infection
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08 May 2013 17:09 #8
by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Garlic would have a potential to help the immune system.....but that doesn't mean it will help the immune system, and certainly does not mean that an immune system stimulated by such things will necessarily be "trained", poised and equiped enough to deal with a large invasion of allergens.
The reality is that innate immune system of fish affected by white spite has been breached, and clearly the acquired immune system is not good enough to cope. It takes time and training to acquire a decent immune system.....and so often fish are not given that chance.
It is also likely that you have some secondary infection that has gotten in through the damage to fishes skin.
The white-spots you see on the fish are not actually on the fish, but inside the flesh of the fish: that does do damage to the fish.
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