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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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04 May 2010 21:40 #1 by Denis (Denis Goulding)
Hi all,
A little problem, i feed a lot of veg to my fish especially cucumber.
Water stinks after a few days, all params are fine, after 2 days i change the water all ok again,,,
50 percent water changes do the trick but after the next feed of veg it starts to get smelly again. I cut the veg out for a week and no smell.
How long do u leave the veg in ur tanks for .. after a day and a half the cucumber is gone, i am thinking about feeding small slices and leaving it there for just two hours and taking it out then.
Ok guys advice please,
Regards,
Denis

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04 May 2010 21:42 #2 by dar (darren curry)
Replied by dar (darren curry) on topic Re:water stinks
i'd take it out wen they stop feeding, i wouldn't leave it in over night unless im feeding a nocturnal but i'd throw a fresh bit in at night and remove it first thing

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04 May 2010 21:58 #3 by Denis (Denis Goulding)
Hi,
I was thinking that just to leave it in for a few hours.
I am feeding bns, so yes nocturnally.u would think .
but they eat all day. They dont stop feeding.
they are always So hungry..lol..
i will just leave in overnight in future.
Thanks
Regards.
Denis

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04 May 2010 22:36 #4 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
I find the warmer the water the quicker the vegetables break down in the water.
Over night would be the longest i would leave vegetables in the water. Just a couple of hours would be better.

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05 May 2010 12:13 #5 by Ma (mm mm)
Replied by Ma (mm mm) on topic Re:water stinks
Hi,

As said, the heat is exactly what does it.
Anything about 22 will make the veggies stink in no time.
I also feel veggies a lot. What I have noticed is that it's better to remove any parts not going to be eated first, skin ect. Do you boil em, I do so they just sink, no need to pin down.

Lastly, you could put in just enough to eat so there will be little left to stink the tank, just make sure theres enough for them.


Mark

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05 May 2010 12:22 #6 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Re:water stinks
Unfortunately, with a tankful of Ancistrus fry (mouths with fins) rather a large proportion of the vegetable matter is eaten - from therein nature takes its course (perhaps flatulence is the better description of the process). As well as the undesirable gas much of what they eat is partially undigested and comes out the other end not fully 'processed'.
A quick gravel 'hoover' with the subsequent water change - as you've found - does the trick.

You might want to try Algae Wafers as staple food, with cucumber and the like as an occasional 'treat'.

John

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07 May 2010 08:35 #7 by Denis (Denis Goulding)
Thanks John, bns love all sorts of veg, courgette , cucumber, csrrot and pease. Peas and cucumber mostly.
aiat is hard to get them onto the wafers. After such a long time on veg, which ones do u recommend.
Denis

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07 May 2010 09:53 #8 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Re:water stinks
I personally feed all my Ancistrus with Hikari wafers - it's quite amusing to see a tankful of fry huddled around each wafer, each one trying to access a part of it.

Every few days they get a 'treat' of a frozen prawn too, that receives similar treatment.

John

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07 May 2010 22:54 #9 by Denis (Denis Goulding)
THank u John i will try the prawn

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07 May 2010 23:04 #10 by scubadim (scubadim)
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Hi Denis,
everything seem to be said but I don't think I would peel the skin off completely.a wider range of food is available with all parts of the vege present.I would blanch for safety reasons rather than boil which would probably ruin nutritious parts of the vege.also most people I know using cucumber for ex would only leave it a couple of hours at a time...
Well hope this helps:)
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07 May 2010 23:23 #11 by Denis (Denis Goulding)
Hi D.
Thanks for ur solid sound advice as always..
When u coming fishing.
Denis

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07 May 2010 23:53 #12 by platty252 (Darren Dalton)
scubadim wrote:

I don't think I would peel the skin off completely.


There is always the fear of pesticides been used on vegetables so IMO it is not a bad idea to peel them.

Would boiling or blanching get rid of any possible pesticides?

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08 May 2010 00:04 #13 by KenS (Ken Simpson)
Replied by KenS (Ken Simpson) on topic Re:water stinks
I'd also check for dead fish. They can be well hidden unless you go looking for them and will cause a tank to stink. Been there.

If you have sand, make sure that you stir it up during water changes every few weeks. Otherwise you can get a gas build up which is potentially lethal for your fish and can also cause a stink.

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Ken.

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08 May 2010 13:23 #14 by scubadim (scubadim)
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platty252 wrote:

scubadim wrote:

I don't think I would peel the skin off completely.


There is always the fear of pesticides been used on vegetables so IMO it is not a bad idea to peel them.

Would boiling or blanching get rid of any possible pesticides?


hi Darren,
there's no fear about pesticide,there is pesticide on vege you get in shops unless organic.
Rinsing with freshwater is good enough for us,personally I think blanching(or boiling for short period of time) is an extra precaution.won't do any harm for the least...?

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08 May 2010 15:57 #15 by Ian (Anthony Ramirez)
I wonder if you got any activated carbon that will absorb the smell or some zeolite rocks

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08 May 2010 22:09 #16 by Denis (Denis Goulding)
some great pieces of advice guys.. I will take them all on board.

I am just leaving veg in for short periods and peeling skin.

No dead fish, but i am stirring the sand, its spotless, lots of plants in there too.

Never used zeolite rocks but it could be an idea.

Thanks again
Denis

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