Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
Ammonia
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Basically I have a few bottles of SafeStart but I'm not going to add that until I can build the ammonia up in the tank to 5ppm and once that broken down add a further 5ppm. Keep doing this until the 5ppm is broken down to 0ppm in 24 hours. Only problem is that I need to get the ammonia first.
Tried the local chemist and they said they'd be surprised if I could get it in a chemist.
I would prefer not to go down the rotten prawns route if possible.
Cheers....
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- ChrisM (ChrisM)
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If you want to hold off I could give you a few litres of filter squeezings which is just as good!
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Whats wrong of getting some filter wool out of the LFS SAME tank as the first introductory fish if its got white spot the fish are going to have white spot to. Sane water same tank, same risk, plus you are adding a greater diversity/strain of bacteria for your bio filter.
That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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"Jeyes Kleen Off" is the one people in the UK/Ireland usually use as a source of ammonia, should be able to get it in the supermarket in the household cleaning section, its basically a type of general purpose surface cleaner, not sure how they use it though for fishless cycling never tried it before, seems straighforeward enough though and the product of choice by those that do fishless cycles. Look up the Jeyes website and see if there is a picture of it in the product list might make it easier to find it in the supermarket.
This is the most dangerous information I have ever heard. It is much safer to piss into the tank. Never use cleaning substances in any tank, they contain a lot more than ammonia.
Spend a few quid a buy safe water and use this,€7 for peace and mind is nothing to pay.
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"Jeyes Kleen Off" is the one people in the UK/Ireland usually use as a source of ammonia, should be able to get it in the supermarket in the household cleaning section, its basically a type of general purpose surface cleaner, not sure how they use it though for fishless cycling never tried it before, seems straighforeward enough though and the product of choice by those that do fishless cycles. Look up the Jeyes website and see if there is a picture of it in the product list might make it easier to find it in the supermarket.
This is the most dangerous information I have ever heard. It is much safer to piss into the tank. Never use cleaning substances in any tank, they contain a lot more than ammonia.
Spend a few quid a buy safe water and use this,€7 for peace and mind is nothing to pay.
Well then delete the post then if its the "most dangerous information you have ever heard".
As far as I understand it the reason people use this product is because it contains 9.5% ammonia and water.......nothing else.
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That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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As my tanks are cycled and I have access to mature media if I'm setting up another tank. You are more than welcome to it, it is in a 100ml anti leak super protective bottle so there will be no problems of a smell of pi$$ in your house if you drop it.
I'm not going to post it though ("might" :wink: be dangerous) so you might have to collect it! or we can organise something.
Plus once you know the concentration, you can work out with a little maths how to calculate how much you need to add to get a part per million ratio.
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Also, I would agree with Anthony stay away from domestic ammonia. I bought one bottle (will find name later) that was said it was a pure 9.5% ammonia/water solution. Brought it home opened the bottle and the stuff was blue. They say that there is a fizz test, that if you shake the ammonia solution (if it fizzes it has something else other than ammonia and water) (if it doesn't it is a pure solution), I would think this test is completely unreliable and would never use it.
Lead me not into temptation, For I can find it myself!
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Might try Lennox on the Naas Rd if I get a chance later, although their stuff is 88% I think which is fairly lethal. ONly come in 2.5L bottles I think and I reckon I might only need a few ml in total.
Tanks_a_lot - cheers for the offer. I'm quite local to Lennox so I might try them. In a bit of a hurry......
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Rang Lennox and they sell a 35% ammonia water solution but they won't sell to the general public. The guy in chemicals gave me a few pointers about where to go.
Went to two small hardware shops that are part of the Superquinn complex on Sundrive road and found a product called "Enzo Household Ammonia". The bottle say's 9.5% solution. No other ingredients mentioned so I googled it and another person bought it (in the UK) for a fishless cycle. They email the manufacturers and the other 90.5% is distilled water.
So for anyone interested, it should be found in any small hardware shop. I'll post results as I get them.
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Its the second from the left!
I think they need to add the blue dye as a type of safety standard!
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www.fishkeeping.co.uk/modules/newbb/view...rder=ASC&start=0
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Lead me not into temptation, For I can find it myself!
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And you can bet that most ammonia based cleaners have something in them to make them smell a bit more pleasant
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And you can bet your 2 cent that they have some sort of perfume added to make ot smell a bit more pleasant.
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Add a few gouramis a few days later and use safewater after that.
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Then turn add a few gouramis and change over to safe water when you have added the fish.
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That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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N.B Ammonia is very dangerous commodity to have around the house with kids.
That would be a ecumenical matter!!!
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