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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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10 Sep 2012 18:11 #1 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
Is this a Peruvian angel or not?

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10 Sep 2012 19:24 #2 by JohnH (John)
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic Peruvian angel?
I wouldn't like to say - but it's a little cracker nevertheless!

It appears that some enterprising exporter has latched onto the fact that Angel lovers love Altums and has boosted his sales somewhat by calling the Angels Peruviam Altums, even though they most definitely aren't Altums (I fell for this one over six years ago - but still got some lovely Angels!).

It's possibly the same one who called the L-(can't remember the number) Columbian Zebra Plecos.

Nice fish, but not Zebs.

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10 Sep 2012 19:48 #3 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
Cheers john,yea I know there still scalars even though it was sold as an altum,just wanted to get the feelers out and see the lads here think,

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10 Sep 2012 20:16 #4 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
kinda looks like a young pterophyllum leopoldi to me nice fish all the same

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10 Sep 2012 20:16 #5 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
www.finarama.com/tba/chronicles/raulings.htm

to see what i mean have a look at the above link

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10 Sep 2012 20:28 #6 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Well, a decent wild scalare is worth a million half-dead altums.

Often, there is a citation that the peruvian scalares have a 'notch in the head' (like an altum).....but the notch in the head is actually a definition for all scalare according the description of scalare.

There has been some real messing with the naming of angelfish over the years with mis-synonyms, and one synonym being incorrectly applied here and there.

The general look of a peruvian is that it may tend to have a very much darkened and bluer top half of the body (but that is in older fish).

As for this guy.....ask him "do-a you-a speak-a Peruvian hey"...and if it nods then it's Peruvian.

Ian
ps (that last sentence is not true as I think peruvian uses different spelling :))

pps....as I was about to post this, I saw Sheag35 posted above. What is interesting in that link is that it implies that leopaldi was once dumerilli but that is not true as leopaldi was never dumerilli.
What was the case is that dumerilli was a synonym of scalare.

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10 Sep 2012 20:32 #7 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
As for this guy.....ask him "do-a you-a speak-a Peruvian hey"...and if it nods then it's Peruvian
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10 Sep 2012 20:34 #8 by sheag35 (Seamus Gillespie)
yep Ian i saw that too and am of the same opinion as you but ask some one for dumerilli and you'll get a look saying no their leopoldi's or that they have never hear of dumerilli's pity they are fantastic fish

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10 Sep 2012 21:01 #9 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Yep. It's like the myth that Geophagus steindachneri is the new name for G. hondi....when the fact is that steindachneri was always the real accepted name.

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10 Sep 2012 21:05 #10 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
Thanks lads,but I think I'm left with more questions than answers, still and all I think we can agree that it's a looker even though you can never really tell what they are at an early stage unless you actually go to the wild on a wooden canoe and catch them yourself,and even then you cant be sure.

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10 Sep 2012 21:39 #11 by JohnH (John)
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Well,
I personally think it's a nice Scalare (a rose by any other name, etc etc).

The basic fact remains this - if you like it, that's all that matters, whatever the name.

John

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07 Mar 2013 19:12 #12 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
I started this thread quite a while ago
My intention for buying these was to breed them
And this evening they started to show signs
Which I'm quiet excited about
They were sold as wild caught Peruvians and I had my doubts
Since they took so long to start showing signs
Anyway here's a little video,
If a picture says a thousand words,what does a video say? ;)

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17 Mar 2013 19:25 #13 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
Well they spawned for me today,
Delighted to say the least!
Enjoy.

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17 Mar 2013 20:10 #14 by Gonefishy (Brian oneill)

Well they spawned for me today,
Delighted to say the least!
Enjoy.


It's really great and very rewarding.....delighted for you...

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17 Mar 2013 20:21 #15 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
Cheers Brian,
Delighted myself,if any survive there all been called Paddy :laugh:

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18 Mar 2013 13:26 #16 by k.galvin (Kieran Galvin)
Nice to see your Angels have spawned keep the vids coming :woohoo:

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18 Mar 2013 18:28 #17 by anglecichlid (ciaran hogan)
Cheers pal hope all goes well,
There still there since yesterday so fingers crossed!

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