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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
ESB Strike ?
25 Nov 2013 22:21 #15
by Melander (Andreas Melander)
Agreed, I cannot see this happening in a modern society and that's probably why there has not been more interest in the post.
The thread is however a very good reminder to get prepared, there could be a power cut from natural causes anytime. Like John pointed out it might be even more relevant out in the countryside.
I have wanted to get a backup plan for a long time now anyway, either a generator or plenty of those battery driver air pumps, can't decide. I'm not too worried about the heat loss as I can't see a power cut last that long.
Andreas
Replied by Melander (Andreas Melander) on topic ESB Strike ?
there is no way they will strike .. its all hot air
Agreed, I cannot see this happening in a modern society and that's probably why there has not been more interest in the post.
The thread is however a very good reminder to get prepared, there could be a power cut from natural causes anytime. Like John pointed out it might be even more relevant out in the countryside.
I have wanted to get a backup plan for a long time now anyway, either a generator or plenty of those battery driver air pumps, can't decide. I'm not too worried about the heat loss as I can't see a power cut last that long.
Andreas
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26 Nov 2013 11:14 #17
by Melander (Andreas Melander)
Good point, +1 for the generator then.
Andreas
Replied by Melander (Andreas Melander) on topic ESB Strike ?
there is no way they will strike .. its all hot air
Agreed, I cannot see this happening in a modern society and that's probably why there has not been more interest in the post.
The thread is however a very good reminder to get prepared, there could be a power cut from natural causes anytime. Like John pointed out it might be even more relevant out in the countryside.
I have wanted to get a backup plan for a long time now anyway, either a generator or plenty of those battery driver air pumps, can't decide. I'm not too worried about the heat loss as I can't see a power cut last that long.
Andreas
from what I've heard from several sources, sponge filters seem to last especially well in the event of a powercut; unlike, for example, an external filter
Good point, +1 for the generator then.
Andreas
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26 Nov 2013 11:49 #18
by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
Actually they even last pretty well in the absence of any air flow at all. Unlike an external filter, where once the power stops your bacterial colony is cut off totally from its food supply (and so can only last a few hours), a sponge filter is still sitting in a larger body of water and at least has some access to sustenance.
Sponge filters rule
"The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life; your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you.They're freeing your soul."
Replied by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley) on topic ESB Strike ?
there is no way they will strike .. its all hot air
Agreed, I cannot see this happening in a modern society and that's probably why there has not been more interest in the post.
The thread is however a very good reminder to get prepared, there could be a power cut from natural causes anytime. Like John pointed out it might be even more relevant out in the countryside.
I have wanted to get a backup plan for a long time now anyway, either a generator or plenty of those battery driver air pumps, can't decide. I'm not too worried about the heat loss as I can't see a power cut last that long.
Andreas
from what I've heard from several sources, sponge filters seem to last especially well in the event of a powercut; unlike, for example, an external filter
Good point, +1 for the generator then.
Andreas
Actually they even last pretty well in the absence of any air flow at all. Unlike an external filter, where once the power stops your bacterial colony is cut off totally from its food supply (and so can only last a few hours), a sponge filter is still sitting in a larger body of water and at least has some access to sustenance.
Sponge filters rule
"The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life; your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you.They're freeing your soul."
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26 Nov 2013 18:56 #19
by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.
Replied by igmillichip (ian millichip) on topic ESB Strike ?
This is where a truly mature tank will come into its own and decreases risks.
Mature does not mean "old"......it's a bit like vintage port: it is vintage the day it is picked; it is only a good wine that get better with age; a poor wine get worse with age.
Recently set-up tanks (eg ones under a year old or ones not set-up fully), though, are most at risk from failed filtration during a power-cut.
ian
Mature does not mean "old"......it's a bit like vintage port: it is vintage the day it is picked; it is only a good wine that get better with age; a poor wine get worse with age.
Recently set-up tanks (eg ones under a year old or ones not set-up fully), though, are most at risk from failed filtration during a power-cut.
ian
Irish Tropical Fish Society (ITFS) Member.
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27 Nov 2013 10:42 #21
by JohnH (John)
LJ,
As I understand it (and I'm perfectly open to being corrected if I'm wrong) your last observation is missing the point somewhat.
In our filtration systems there are two types of bacteria, aerobic and anaerobic - one of which needs oxygen and one which doesn't (don't ask me which is which though, although I do think it's the former).
So, without the oxygen the one which depends upon it will quickly die off and this will break the whole chain.
Perhaps IGM could tell us more when he has the time.
John
Location:
N. Tipp
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.
ITFS member.
It's a long way to Tipperary.
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic ESB Strike ?
there is no way they will strike .. its all hot air
Agreed, I cannot see this happening in a modern society and that's probably why there has not been more interest in the post.
The thread is however a very good reminder to get prepared, there could be a power cut from natural causes anytime. Like John pointed out it might be even more relevant out in the countryside.
I have wanted to get a backup plan for a long time now anyway, either a generator or plenty of those battery driver air pumps, can't decide. I'm not too worried about the heat loss as I can't see a power cut last that long.
Andreas
from what I've heard from several sources, sponge filters seem to last especially well in the event of a powercut; unlike, for example, an external filter
Good point, +1 for the generator then.
Andreas
Actually they even last pretty well in the absence of any air flow at all. Unlike an external filter, where once the power stops your bacterial colony is cut off totally from its food supply (and so can only last a few hours), a sponge filter is still sitting in a larger body of water and at least has some access to sustenance.
Sponge filters rule
LJ,
As I understand it (and I'm perfectly open to being corrected if I'm wrong) your last observation is missing the point somewhat.
In our filtration systems there are two types of bacteria, aerobic and anaerobic - one of which needs oxygen and one which doesn't (don't ask me which is which though, although I do think it's the former).
So, without the oxygen the one which depends upon it will quickly die off and this will break the whole chain.
Perhaps IGM could tell us more when he has the time.
John
Location:
N. Tipp
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.
ITFS member.
It's a long way to Tipperary.
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27 Nov 2013 11:44 #22
by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley)
I get what you're saying. I'm not saying they don't need oxygen; but a sponge sitting directly in a tank will survive longer than an external, which is more or less starved of oxygen/nourishment from the moment the power fails. And it then pumps all that toxic water back into the tank once the power comes back. But if the tank becomes depleted of O2, then yeah, you're screwed... and not in a good way!
"The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life; your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you.They're freeing your soul."
Replied by LemonJelly (Johnny Cowley) on topic ESB Strike ?
there is no way they will strike .. its all hot air
Agreed, I cannot see this happening in a modern society and that's probably why there has not been more interest in the post.
The thread is however a very good reminder to get prepared, there could be a power cut from natural causes anytime. Like John pointed out it might be even more relevant out in the countryside.
I have wanted to get a backup plan for a long time now anyway, either a generator or plenty of those battery driver air pumps, can't decide. I'm not too worried about the heat loss as I can't see a power cut last that long.
Andreas
from what I've heard from several sources, sponge filters seem to last especially well in the event of a powercut; unlike, for example, an external filter
Good point, +1 for the generator then.
Andreas
Actually they even last pretty well in the absence of any air flow at all. Unlike an external filter, where once the power stops your bacterial colony is cut off totally from its food supply (and so can only last a few hours), a sponge filter is still sitting in a larger body of water and at least has some access to sustenance.
Sponge filters rule
LJ,
As I understand it (and I'm perfectly open to being corrected if I'm wrong) your last observation is missing the point somewhat.
In our filtration systems there are two types of bacteria, aerobic and anaerobic - one of which needs oxygen and one which doesn't (don't ask me which is which though, although I do think it's the former).
So, without the oxygen the one which depends upon it will quickly die off and this will break the whole chain.
Perhaps IGM could tell us more when he has the time.
John
I get what you're saying. I'm not saying they don't need oxygen; but a sponge sitting directly in a tank will survive longer than an external, which is more or less starved of oxygen/nourishment from the moment the power fails. And it then pumps all that toxic water back into the tank once the power comes back. But if the tank becomes depleted of O2, then yeah, you're screwed... and not in a good way!
"The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life; your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you.They're freeing your soul."
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27 Nov 2013 19:14 - 27 Nov 2013 19:15 #24
by JohnH (John)
Location:
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We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.
ITFS member.
It's a long way to Tipperary.
Replied by JohnH (John) on topic ESB Strike ?
Well, that's cleared it up - I think...
John
John
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27 Nov 2013 19:30 #25
by ger310 (Ger .)
And that was the simple explanation ha
Ger
What do you call a three legged Donkey?
A Wonkey....duh ha
Replied by ger310 (Ger .) on topic ESB Strike ?
Well, that's cleared it up - I think...
John
And that was the simple explanation ha
Ger
What do you call a three legged Donkey?
A Wonkey....duh ha
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