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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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13 Jun 2007 04:30 #1 by Tetra (Tetra)
Just saw this on you tube says that its illegal to feed phriana live fish. I know it only applies to england just wondering Is this true at all.


just around the 1 minute mark he says it

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13 Jun 2007 04:47 #2 by Red Empress (Red Empress)
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This is what I found on google.

Legal considerations

In the UK, the Animal Welfare Act 2006 prohibits deliberate and "unnecessary suffering" to animals, but contrary to widespread belief, it doesn't explicitly outlaw the feeding of live feeder fish to other fish. However, it does prohibit introducing two animals for the purpose of "fighting, wrestling or baiting". [4] Nonetheless, the assumption is that a legal case could be made to class the use of feeder fish as a "fight" and though as-yet untried in the courts, the risk of such a prosecution has led many retailers and hobbyists simply to treat the use of feeder fish in the UK as illegal

So there is your answer. Hope that helps. :D

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13 Jun 2007 04:49 #3 by Tetra (Tetra)
Interesting So I take it that we dont have the same law here in ireland

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13 Jun 2007 05:03 #4 by Red Empress (Red Empress)
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I don't know if this will help but here is a link for you to look at.

www.answers.com/topic/feeder-fish

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13 Jun 2007 05:11 #5 by Didihno (Didihno)
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I do not have a problem with people feeding fish to other fish.
Yes the Piranha tears them to shreds in seconds rather than being all nicey nicey and swallowing them whole, in case they offend our sensibilities.

These fish are predators, and piscivores, amongst other things.
There are a couple of vids showing them being fed live mice.
Morally wrong? Maybe. Cruel? Definately.
Natures way? Absolutely.

Is there going to be a law against feeding live artemia to your baby cichlids? Hows about chopping up live worms?
One mans morality.....

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13 Jun 2007 05:55 #6 by Red Empress (Red Empress)
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I don't have a problem with it. My problem is people who post it on you tube and think it is some thing everyone wants to see. :roll:

I know quite a few people who feed there excess & deformed fry to there other fish. I really don't think that is wrong.

If you have a pair of fish that produces between 300 & 500 fry how the heck are you going to raise all of them.

Better to get rid of the deformed and excess ones to your other fish than to sell unhealthy fish back into the trade and breeding lines.

Just my opinion. :)

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13 Jun 2007 06:23 #7 by apistodiscus (apistodiscus)
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I don't see anything immoral or wrong with feeding live fish. Putting a video on the net is a different matter. And of course it's Piranahs since this attracts people to watch it. I don't think if I posted picture of my dwarf cichlids tearing into gubby fry anybody would watching it.
Macho brigade on the lose in the net...

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13 Jun 2007 15:01 #8 by Penguin (Penguin)
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It's nature, of course it isn;t wrong... what next- muzzles on cats so they cannot eat mice????

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