Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)
Hi,
John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.
I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.
With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.
I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.
If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.
I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.
I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.
Thank you
Darragh Sherwin
Heiko Bleher Arrested
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Heiko and Natasha are being held in prison and no trial is date has yet been set.
there a petition out to secure his release already
www.freeheiko.com
well he did discover lots of species so why not
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Come on guys who accidentally forgets to remove some fish from your luggage! and please note \"In 1964 Bleher started a commercial operation collecting and exporting fishes out of Brazil for the aquarium trade\"
He tried to smuggle and got caught, Fish/Drugs/Diamonds whats the diff?
Those fish must have been worth the risk, Rare/Marketable dont know
And was it his 1st time?, I guess we will see.
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profit been but first without consideration of the consequences is not excitable not alone is it wrong but there is also the risk of undiscovered disease which could do harm to native species were as these new species are immune. this is a bad example of profit first
also if by this theft these fish being described then the the right full discover has lost all credit due
in the early days of aids discovery it was know as hdlv4 named by french science team this was later changed when it was discovered that this team stole data from another source the french did it because there would be profit to be made from this
And Heiko Bleher it would seem is guilty of the same!
hopefully this is a miss understanding! and a licence had expired or clerical error
otherwise it is unexceptable and deserves a punishment.
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Just read the report on Simply Discus. It appears his guide and photographer were arrested as well. He may be good at his job, but he did noe have a licence for collecting what appears DNA samples. also the fact that it was in hand luggage!!!!!!
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i think the same as youif the reports are correct then i have to newrossman while i would love to be able to get new species asap if this is done this way than i would rather do with out!
profit been but first without consideration of the consequences is not excitable not alone is it wrong but there is also the risk of undiscovered disease which could do harm to native species were as these new species are immune. this is a bad example of profit first
also if by this theft these fish being described then the the right full discover has lost all credit due
in the early days of aids discovery it was know as hdlv4 named by french science team this was later changed when it was discovered that this team stole data from another source the french did it because there would be profit to be made from this
And Heiko Bleher it would seem is guilty of the same!
hopefully this is a miss understanding! and a licence had expired or clerical error
otherwise it is unexceptable and deserves a punishment.
he is not a child and he shuld know if that is illegal
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just remember if the brazil is a poor country only goods what they have there is a rivers, rain forest, animals, plants and other natural goods, then they have right to take care about own goods. we just have to lern if even if they are poore countris they have exacly the same rights as we have here. if you are guest only in other countris you have to respect a law
just look how many species use to be place on CITES list
in this year join to them
lots of botia, labeo, and many other species,
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\"All the specimens that Heiko was carrying where in alcohol and formalin solution\".
My preferred state to be in when flying, especially by Ryanair...not the Formalin Solution, though - that might just prove a little 'Terminal' (sorry, I couldn't resist that pun).
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We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.
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It's a long way to Tipperary.
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If he had nothing to hide all he had to do was to apply for the apropriate documentation. Preserving in Formaln will mean DNA is easily recoverable. In my opinion he has done the hobby a great deal of damage.
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sheag35 wrote:
inbreeding makes poor fish remember the odd wild caught to boost stock quality is always needed
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I would agree with you Seamus if it were one or two but its not Hundreds are caught and sold not for genetic reasons but speed and profit.
if we want to protect our fish from in breed there is a simple way to do this with out exploiting and endangering wild stock.
good record keeping
thus avoiding breeding from fish closely related
good records of when and were wild stock was sourced
If this can be done with dogs, cats and horses then surely we can this
while i would except this is more suited to those with fish rooms there is no reason why fish with the correct records and history should not get a fair cash price from LFS.
this would benefit wild stock, lfs and breeders alike
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If seems this was the culmination of a year long investigation, so some one must think they have a case, whether it is valid or not remains to be seen.
He is an experienced enough collector to know what permits etc that are needed and if there was nothing wrong with what he was doing I don't see why he would not have secured them. As it was only fish tissues he was carrying, it would not have been for direct profit, although through his publications etc it may result in indirect profit.
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There are enough mutations of the Discus already. The Browns & Greens were the original Discus, look where we are now.
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I am sure the story has already been sold. But it will be interesting to hear what he has to say about the matter.
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Heiko explain yourself to one and all if your listening
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