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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

Trout pellets

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05 Jan 2007 08:14 #1 by apistodiscus (apistodiscus)
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Does anybody have any idea where one can buy trout pellets, the small grade that is used as young fish (grade0 to 000)? I'm getting tired of making my own food mix for my discus. I've used these pellets before. In the long run they are cheaper never mind more convinient. They contain up 60% protein and very little fat.

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06 Jan 2007 12:07 #2 by apistodiscus (apistodiscus)
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John,
welcome back after christmas. The stuff they sell in tackle shops are carp pellets as fas as I can make out. The fat content is too high for my purposes. I'll check if they do trout pellets. Thanks for the hint
Holger

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07 Jan 2007 02:14 #3 by Sean (Fr. Jack)
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The skin growing slower than the rest of the body and splitting open I hope was joke and not some ify factual info.

Salmon and trout food is different to carp food. AS you will be buying such a small amount I do not think it would be worth your while to get it from the food supplies, I would go to you local fish farm with a bottle of whiskey under your arm with the view of swooping it for trout pellets.
Contact info as per below. good luck.


www.dcmnr.gov.ie/Marine/Seafood+Policy+a...tly+Asked+Questions/

That would be a ecumenical matter!!!

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07 Jan 2007 09:20 #4 by apistodiscus (apistodiscus)
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thought of that one already. But the only fish farms around my area are salmon farms and the pellets they use are much to big. I'm sure carp would eat them but they are way to big for most aquarium fishes.
The fisheries board has a hatchery but let's just say I'm not exactly seeing eye to eye with them. Long story, involved a college project that was somewhat over critical of the fisheries board, or so they believe. Just on my way to the tackle shop to check if they stock what I'm looking for. Have to get hooks anyway. My fly boxes need restocking and now is as good a time than any to tie a few

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08 Jan 2007 02:59 #5 by 2poc (2poc)
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The tackle shop should have trout pellets too - they are also used in carp fishing.
I have some that I feed my koi every so often, I believe they are liver based.

Not to hijack your post - but I do some fishing myself & had some leftover maggots from the weekend.
Thought these would be a good treat-food for the koi so fed them a dozen or so & they devoured them.
Good idea/Bad idea?

Good luck,
Patrick.

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08 Jan 2007 14:20 #6 by Anthony (Anthony)
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If you intend feeding them to Discus I would remove the head.
A discus could choke on them as Discus have a small swollow hole(suffering from brain freeze and can`t remember proper name) compared to there mouth size.

Info not for Holgar as he probably knows but for others that don`t.

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09 Jan 2007 12:02 #7 by Sean (Fr. Jack)
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I kid you not!!!

In England there are no end of fish 'experts' who propound these sorts of theories and if they sound feasible enough the masses follow lamely along...carp fishing over there is now THE in form of angling but it's rife with exactly this sort of theory (amongst others).

I was glad to get away from it all!

I think your idea of 'bribing' someone from Trout farm for pellets is a good one - what do you think, Holger?

John


I am from England but of Irish origin

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09 Jan 2007 13:32 #8 by apistodiscus (apistodiscus)
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Anthony,
'esophagus' is the word you are looking for.
Never mind. I wouldn't feed maggots to discus anyway. If you were ever on a maggot farm you would know why.

Holger

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09 Jan 2007 19:10 #9 by JohnH (John)
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I am from England but of Irish origin[/quote]


OOPs...
I put my foot in it again!!!
Or perhaps not, being English myself (with Welsh antecedents) I intended no sleight against anyone here, sorry if you took it that way, my observation was directed to the pricks over there who lead the carp-fishing masses with unfounded theories (like the skin-splitting).
In England now every drop of water has become a carp fishery...part of the reason for my departure was to get away from them! - Now there appears to be the same scenario occurring over here! carp fisheries cropping up all over the country! Still, I suppose it will be good news for the poachers - plenty of fish for the Eastern European market, perhaps the Pike will get left alone...(no chance).
John

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N. Tipp

We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl - year after year.


ITFS member.



It's a long way to Tipperary.

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10 Jan 2007 04:01 #10 by Anthony (Anthony)
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I am from England but of Irish origin[/quote]


OOPs...
I put my foot in it again!!!
Or perhaps not, being English myself (with Welsh antecedents) I intended no sleight against anyone here, sorry if you took it that way, my observation was directed to the pricks over there who lead the carp-fishing masses with unfounded theories (like the skin-splitting).
In England now every drop of water has become a carp fishery...part of the reason for my departure was to get away from them! - Now there appears to be the same scenario occurring over here! carp fisheries cropping up all over the country! Still, I suppose it will be good news for the poachers - plenty of fish for the Eastern European market, perhaps the Pike will get left alone...(no chance).
John[/quote]

Not to appear racist but some of these foreigners are emptying every lake and canal they can get their dirty little hooks in.
They even had a net accross the canal in Maynooth.

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10 Jan 2007 04:04 #11 by apistodiscus (apistodiscus)
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As opposed to the Irish gill netting the western Loughs for pike?
Let's stop the hypocracy.

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10 Jan 2007 05:20 #12 by Sean (Fr. Jack)
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The fisheries board has a hatchery but let's just say I'm not exactly seeing eye to eye with them. Long story, involved a college project that was somewhat over critical of the fisheries board, or so they believe.

Go on then tell us what you were a naughty boy then, we all want to know more than your trout pellet story.

P.S Anthony is now posting that he has a whole load of frozen beefheart he wants to give away, he obviously searched his feelings, and knows its his destiny.


That would be a ecumenical matter!!!

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10 Jan 2007 05:51 #13 by apistodiscus (apistodiscus)
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Naughty boy then and even worse now. Don't get me started on the SWRFB. Fisheries management, my eye....

And as long as I get to mess arounf with Princess Leah's hair, Anthony can eat his own beefheart mix for all I care :twisted:

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11 Jan 2007 05:16 #14 by Sean (Fr. Jack)
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Some of the big fish experts back in the eighties were not Irish, I do not know the reason why that was, but the ITFS then was 100% Irish except for one Dutch guy, the Irish Marine society hardly had any Irish in it, e.g Dave Roome (English) owns DC compute Air in the baldoyle Industrial estate, keeping marines since the late 70´s and lives in Dundrum, and Surge (French) lives in Firhouse west Dublin, French teacher in one of the private language schools in Dublin, again keeping marines since the 70s these guys would be perfect to monitor the marine forum. :idea:

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11 Jan 2007 16:59 #15 by Anthony (Anthony)
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Naughty boy then and even worse now. Don't get me started on the SWRFB. Fisheries management, my eye....

And as long as I get to mess around with Princess Leah's hair, Anthony can eat his own beefheart mix for all I care :twisted:


You Germans eat enough raw meat as it is :oops: so stay away from my Beefheart. :x
That Beefheart is sold anyway, I don`t use it any more as I don`t keep Discus anymore. Only Malawi/Tanganyikans and Synodontis cats plus my little Packistani Loach.

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12 Jan 2007 04:13 #16 by Anthony (Anthony)
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Anthony,
'esophagus' is the word you are looking for.
Never mind. I wouldn't feed maggots to discus anyway. If you were ever on a maggot farm you would know why.

Holger


Thanks mate. :wink:
The brain suffers from freeze sometimes :cry:

Would not feed myself. The best food is purged and diced Earth worms.

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12 Jan 2007 04:18 #17 by Anthony (Anthony)
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As opposed to the Irish gill netting the western Loughs for pike?
Let's stop the hypocracy.


Holger,
Every sane-minded angler should abhor the gill netting of Pike, not only, but especially in the Western lakes. So no hypocracy there...surely because the short sighted idiots in charge up there needlessly kill Pike that hardly gives the eastern europeans carte blanche to wipe out ALL fish (and wildfowl too) on every water?
Possibly down in Cork you will not have witnessed the devastation caused, but please take my word for it, I fear for fish (and fowl) stocks...something needs to be done - and quickly.

John


I was not on about the Germans wipng out stocks.
More the Eastern block Countries. Watched a program about decemating fish stocks in Britain, here is f the facts.
70% of all Polish people fish. 95% of them eat the fish they catch.

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12 Jan 2007 05:08 #18 by apistodiscus (apistodiscus)
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Hi Anthony & John,
I don't consider Germans Eastern European. I know who you meant. Christ, they were trying to take carp from the Lough in Cork. But look at the idiots that fish for trout here and they are Irish. There are some clubs in Cork that haven't even banned maggots as a legitemat bait for trout in their competitions. My club has lobbied the fisheries board to pass a by-law to ban the use of maggots in trout fishing. Also the legal size limit for trout is 7.5 inches. I wouldn't feed a fish that size to a cat...

I agree that the gill netting of pike in the Western Loughs makes no sense from a population dynamics point of view. A lot of small pike will eat a hell lot more of trout than a few real whoppers, since small pike for their body weight need prop0rtionally more food. They need more calories since they are still growing at a rapid rate. The growth in really big fish around the 20lbs is miniscule. They only require calories for movement and reproduction. Furthermore they also eat small pike.

So what you will get when you gill net all the big pike is a lot of small pike that eat a lot more trout than if you had big pike that eat small pike and the odd trout.

Holger

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12 Jan 2007 05:59 #19 by Sean (Fr. Jack)
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I dont know how far the forum accepts racialism as any body from eastern Europe that keeps fish that lives in Ireland could be watching so let me say my bit, if if it has to be delete afterwards so by it, I came to Ireland from England at age 11 with Irish parents (Dublin and Crossmaglen), my Grandfather even fought in the 1916 rising in GPO, when I finish my leaving cert in the late 1986, there was no work so I had to leave like many left then.
The last trip back to Ireland, (2006)I stopped in arrivals at Dublin airport to order a coffee and the girl that served me could hardly speak enough English. This pisses me off, I would of found it hard to get a job like that in 1986. In Majorca most of the big houses that are broken in are from E.E countries, I even had them come into my shop and commit credit card fraud, with someones credit card.

Getting back to fishing the most fun I ever had with fishing is "electro fishing" basically to tag fish we would jump into a river with a electric curve bar (enough to kill you) it had a dead man switch so if you let go it turns the electric off, how it works is the electric attracts the fish to you a bit like the death stars traction field, once the fish are in front of you you just net them, it needed to be adjusted if set to high the fish break their back has the swim into you net

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12 Jan 2007 08:08 #20 by apistodiscus (apistodiscus)
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Sean,
let's face it in late late eighties and early ninties most college grads and not only them were on the first plane out of the country. Just take my class. 85 graduates in 1995 and as far as I know there are 3 of us left in the country.
I don't care where the person is from that gets my my drink at the airport as long as I don't have to learn a foreign language to order it.
Ok, enough of the workforce discussion. Let's just leave it at that.

Electrofishing is fun and it also gives you a good idea of what species and in which quantity are present. Did quite a bit of it myself. Just make sure you have no leak in your waders :D

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