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Retirement and forum shutdown (17 Jan 2022)

Hi,

John Howell who has managed the forum for years is getting on and wishes to retire from the role of managing it.
Over the years, he has managed the forum through good days and bad days and he has always been fair.
He has managed to bring his passion for fish keeping to the forum and keep it going for so long.

I wish to thank John for his hard work in keeping the forum going.

With John wishing to "retire" from the role of managing the forum and the forum receiving very little traffic, I think we must agree that forum has come to a natural conclusion and it's time to put it to rest.

I am proposing that the forum be made read-only from March 2022 onwards and that no new users or content be created. The website is still registered for several more years, so the content will still be accessible but no new topics or replies will be allowed.

If there is interest from the ITFS or other fish keeping clubs, we may redirect traffic to them or to a Facebook group but will not actively manage it.

I'd like to thank everyone over the years who helped with forum, posted a reply, started a new topic, ask a question and helped a newbie in fish keeping. And thank you to the sponsors who helped us along the away. Hopefully it made the hobby stronger.

I'd especially like to thank John Howell and Valerie Rousseau for all of their contributions, without them the forum would have never been has successful.

Thank you
Darragh Sherwin

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19 Nov 2010 10:19 - 19 Nov 2010 10:20 #1 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Whats the most badass fish, fresh or salt, that you have ever kept? Im looking for examples of fish you have actually owned, as fish dont always follow the rules ;).


Heres mine begining with the meanest:

1, Niger Trigger... utterly heartless

2, Male Green Terror Cichlid

3, Oscar

4, Male Convict Cichlid


Jay

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19 Nov 2010 10:29 #2 by serratus (Drew Latimer)
This has been done before i think, good question still for me Mystus Wyckii, we had a 30" specimen that ripped a plug off the wall!!!!! natives in Thailand actually think it is possessed, they mighten be far wrong ;) .. no contest.. may be a shark but thats it :)

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19 Nov 2010 10:43 - 19 Nov 2010 11:02 #3 by convict84 (sean farrell)
1.ex cichlasoma festae
2.1 pair of convicts
3.jaguar cichlids
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19 Nov 2010 10:59 #4 by mossy (gavin blanchfield)
flowerhorn(nuts)
redhead cichlid

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19 Nov 2010 11:27 #5 by Gavin (Gavin)
hands down a male dovii I once had.Satan in a fish.If i had him still I would pit him against all the above in the same tank and he wouldn't even have a scratch. even killed his mate while they had fry in a tank on their own together.I called him fred west,or fred for short.Nutcase, but i loved him, in the end he commmited suicide by breaking his tank while I was at work,I lived over a harley davidson shop and they rang me to tell me that water was lashing down on their more expensive bikes.hows that for a fish kkeping story.

dont make me come over there.

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19 Nov 2010 11:35 #6 by fishmad1234 (Craig Coyle)
tiger shovel nose cat fish not that big one i had but still ate 2 fairly big black ghost knife fish s in one nite

at the end of the day it becomes nite

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19 Nov 2010 11:44 #7 by convict84 (sean farrell)
dovi is top of the food chain within cichlids,they are pure hunting machines and will kill anything that gets in its way!!!

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19 Nov 2010 11:54 #8 by convict84 (sean farrell)
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this is a peacock bass,they sell these im some lfs here,i know someone who has a 3 foot one and you wouldnt put your hand in!!!

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19 Nov 2010 12:47 #9 by Viperbot (Jason Hughes)
Gavin wrote:

hands down a male dovii I once had.Satan in a fish.If i had him still I would pit him against all the above in the same tank and he wouldn't even have a scratch. even killed his mate while they had fry in a tank on their own together.I called him fred west,or fred for short.Nutcase, but i loved him, in the end he commmited suicide by breaking his tank while I was at work,I lived over a harley davidson shop and they rang me to tell me that water was lashing down on their more expensive bikes.hows that for a fish kkeping story.


Epic. The most badass fish ever takes some of the most badass bikes ever with him on the way out. I would love to keep one. Havnt the room for a tank big enough to be dedicated to just that one fish though :(.

Jay

Location: Finglas, North Dublin.

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19 Nov 2010 13:07 #10 by dubfish (Alan Martin)
A pair of Neolamprologus brichardi when they pair off and spawn,can be instant death for other tank mates.
The same can be said for the Neo-tretocephalus when a pair have spawned.

Regards Alan..

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19 Nov 2010 13:13 #11 by Gavin (Gavin)
light weights al!:lol: you and your tang world!

let's hear it DDDDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!
ahem.

dont make me come over there.

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19 Nov 2010 14:35 #12 by dar (darren curry)
boesemani rainbow (tanx joey) laugh all you like but he is a big meany

Check out the angling section, it is fantastic

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19 Nov 2010 18:24 #13 by Puddlefish (Colin McCourt)

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19 Nov 2010 20:07 #14 by des (des)
Puddlefish wrote:

Exodon's


that's my next plan for the 240, a load of exodon paradoxus (bucktooth tetra)
should be cool...


by far the most evil fish i ever had was a redline snakehead, total psychopath
he never had a tank mate for more than about 3 seconds...
went for my hand a few times aswell
he broke his back trying to escape from the tank
mad fish, swore to myself i'd get another one again at some stage in the future

Des

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19 Nov 2010 23:44 #15 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Well, there are the obvious dovii and the rest of the larger cichlid group, and ones that are usually kept alone.
But I'll ignore them here as being big and brutish in the first place may have an unfair advantage in this compo.

Instead, for shear non-stop manic persistent badass (and infuriating) behaviour....

tops...a Neetroplus nematopus.
Even when chaising this rather fast 4 inch monster, it was attempting to attack other fish (including some bigger bruiser-cichlids). I can't write here what names I called it.

In a Malawi tank.....despite having a number of full sized chipoki ruling the roost in one tank, a Melanochromis exasperatus and a M. johanni decided they had more aggressive energy than the rest (it looked like two whirl-winds spinning around the bottom of every fish)

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23 Nov 2010 20:32 #16 by dyco619 (steve carmody)
just came across this on youtube..
some nasty looking fella's...

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23 Nov 2010 20:41 #17 by convict84 (sean farrell)

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23 Nov 2010 20:48 #18 by dyco619 (steve carmody)
convict84 wrote:

utter crap


well i never said it was great!!
why do you think its crap?

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23 Nov 2010 21:01 #19 by serratus (Drew Latimer)
Suprised to see an oscar in amongst those.. and not a buttie or a wyckii etc.... some stunning specimens there tho.. :)

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23 Nov 2010 21:07 #20 by des (des)
convict84 wrote:

utter crap


sorry Sean, no offense intended but have you ever had a channa micropeltes (red line snakehead)
a well aggressive, evil fish

i've had or still have no.'s 9, 8, 6, 4, 2 & 1

all mentalers

put an adult dovii in with an adult red line snakehead or african tiger fish and see what happens... :dry:

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23 Nov 2010 21:12 #21 by dar (darren curry)
is that vid pound for pound? or just assumption on the basis of size

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23 Nov 2010 22:01 - 23 Nov 2010 22:05 #22 by stretnik (stretnik)
Replied by stretnik (stretnik) on topic Re:Meanest, most ruthless fish.
Couldn't pass this up, I bet the dead Fish thought the Puffer was Ruthless and mean.

www.evilsunday.com/deadly-puffer-fish-kills-big-fish/




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23 Nov 2010 22:08 #23 by andrewo (andrew)
Har har and i bet the girl who took the picture is keeping her distance!B)

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23 Nov 2010 22:29 #24 by igmillichip (ian millichip)
Good one Kev.

The video.....quite interesting them 'top 10' thingys. (I see loads of them on cable TV....beam me up scottie if I have to see another)
How were the hit-points assigned?

Many of them are well known bruiser cichlids.....probably get into anyones top-1o by being the nice fish bought and shoved in a 3 foot community tank {"oooh, Mary my new fish are rather pugnacious!"}
Most of them cichlids (maybe all of them) are true bruisers and big, but they don't half go down the pan if anything turns back on them. They are all very nicely top-dog when they are clearly still top-dog....a sharp wake-up call and many of them stay down. Well....that's just the same old story with bullies anyway.
Discus may be more persistently aggressive than some of the cichlids there....but don't carry the weight and mouth size to do much damage in the battles they may start. :)

All the top fish in the vid are biggies.....to which fish are they relatively guaged?
How would they come off if they decided to pick on an aussie lungfish? (No. 1 might be in a good position because of its jaw design....it would need to make sure first attack counts though).

Although not a bruiser as such, large hymenophysa tiger loaches (they probably changed scientific name)can show a never ending ruthless aggression.

But when it comes to fish-fear.......please don't anyone ever offer me homemade fish-cakes made out of anything that tastes like fish. That would be ruthless and pretty mean.

ian

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24 Nov 2010 13:19 #25 by 2poc (2poc)
Replied by 2poc (2poc) on topic Re:Meanest, most ruthless fish.
Meanest fish I've come across is Nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus. Horrible demeanor once they reach a certain size. There are definitely meaner out there though.

I also had a pair of clarkii clowns that bit the arms off me any time I put my hand in the tank. Looked like I had ringworm after a while with all of the little round marks.

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